View Poll Results: Why doesn't America ever acknowledge Mestizos, continue to push WhiteBlack dichotomy?

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  • It's nationally advantageous for the dominant US socioracial factions.

    1 8.33%
  • The US is obsessed with the idea of a "white" and "black" national mindset.

    6 50.00%
  • Mestizos haven't the sociopolitical clout of black America is all.

    1 8.33%
  • Mestizos prefer to be labeled white rather than Mestizo.

    3 25.00%
  • Mestizos are culturally, politically "co-opted" by powerful socioracial factions into silence.

    2 16.67%
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Thread: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichotomy?

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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    I'd abuse the sh*t out of any "PC race sh*t" you can. People are ****ing crazy. Especially these days. Truth is, that stuff works.


    99% of people anywhere are complete idiots on the topic of race to begin with as this thread shows, and of those 99%, 98% have "strong" inaccurate views on race which compound their idiocy. So it's an extremely manipulable system if you understand the basic "popular ignorance" of the day which is not hard to do. I'm a visibly northern Euro guy but live and was born here in America and I've manipulated the hell out of most Americans ignorance of race. I've been Swedish, Russian and many more because people are entirely image based and will believe anything that sounds even remotely sophisticated.
    Yet we notice that you can't answer very basic questions on the subject, and think that Japanese is a race.
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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post


    America has more Mestizos than African Americans now yet one would never know this through American media. You will never hear the word Mestizo in the US. Ever. This is even more odd when you start to realize that A 2012 study published by the Journal of Human Genetics found that the majority of the current Mexican population (~93%) is mixed race to some degree, counting the Mexican population of the US.

    Why is this? Why do we constantly read about black and white America in our media but never mestizo America?

    Is this intentional? Is this cultural? Is this sociocultural conspiracy? The media? Is this lack of care about said Mestizo population compared to the black, white populations? Is this simply that Mestizos are thrown into a black, white categorization based on their skin color and that's why? Do Americans just not focus on Mestizos enough to care to even acknowledge their existence? Is it simply that Mestizos haven't built up the clout yet of black America?

    I find this "erasing" of Mestizos from all facets of American conscious fascinating either way. I mean really, you never hear "A Mestizo man, a black man and a white man were arrested today." Why not?




    "the majority of the current Mexican population (~93%) is mixed race to some degree"

    Does this make sense to anybody?

    A nationality is 93% mixed race?

    Are they saying Mexican is a race?

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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post


    America has more Mestizos than African Americans now yet one would never know this through American media. You will never hear the word Mestizo in the US. Ever. This is even more odd when you start to realize that A 2012 study published by the Journal of Human Genetics found that the majority of the current Mexican population (~93%) is mixed race to some degree, counting the Mexican population of the US.

    Why is this? Why do we constantly read about black and white America in our media but never mestizo America?

    Is this intentional? Is this cultural? Is this sociocultural conspiracy? The media? Is this lack of care about said Mestizo population compared to the black, white populations? Is this simply that Mestizos are thrown into a black, white categorization based on their skin color and that's why? Do Americans just not focus on Mestizos enough to care to even acknowledge their existence? Is it simply that Mestizos haven't built up the clout yet of black America?

    I find this "erasing" of Mestizos from all facets of American conscious fascinating either way. I mean really, you never hear "A Mestizo man, a black man and a white man were arrested today." Why not?




    I notice that Mexican people are "White" on their birth certificates. But they are not considered White in every day life. Why is this?
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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Can you give us an unequivocal definition of what 'race' means? How many races are there, and please list them? And, of course, state your academic sources. What convenient boxes a government agency dreams up to help it classify its population does not count as prima facie evidence that distinct races even exist.
    Negroid, Caucasoid, and Mongoloid. (These were the old ones anyway) I just posted them to get a response from you all.
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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Hey, here's a novel idea...why don't we all just ignore people's 'race' and just get on with our lives?

    Oh yeah, forgot...we are talking about America.

    Never mind.


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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I live in Texas, where there are many Mexicans, and I lived in Chile for a couple years so I have a bit of background knowledge.

    First, I've never heard the word "mestizo" used by any hispanic person ever. The word is "hispanic" when describing ethnicity, and "latino" when describing culture.

    Second, latin americans ARE white. It's not that they want to be considered white, it's not that anyone is oppressing anyone, they ARE WHITE.
    Mestizo is actually pretty common here in Mexico. It references people born out of Spanish-Native American marriages/mixes.
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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Mestizo is actually pretty common here in Mexico. It references people born out of Spanish-Native American marriages/mixes.
    I get the impression there's some racism against them, too.
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