View Poll Results: Why doesn't America ever acknowledge Mestizos, continue to push WhiteBlack dichotomy?

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  • It's nationally advantageous for the dominant US socioracial factions.

    1 8.33%
  • The US is obsessed with the idea of a "white" and "black" national mindset.

    6 50.00%
  • Mestizos haven't the sociopolitical clout of black America is all.

    1 8.33%
  • Mestizos prefer to be labeled white rather than Mestizo.

    3 25.00%
  • Mestizos are culturally, politically "co-opted" by powerful socioracial factions into silence.

    2 16.67%
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Thread: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichotomy?

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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Which it is. Would you like to be treated like a dog?
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    Intellectual dishonest on display for all to see.
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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Step up! One and all!

    Intellectual dishonest on display for all to see.
    The concept is not really that hard to understand, although you seem to be struggling with it. We don't treat humans and animals the same way.

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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    It's okay. We're big kids here. We can handle labels I think. Get ready the recess bell is about to ring!
    I think if we're big kids we can handle things WITHOUT labels, too.
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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    The concept is not really that hard to understand, although you seem to be struggling with it. We don't treat humans and animals the same way.
    That isn't my question though and if you don't know it then I feel really sorry for you... if you do know it and are trying to be clever, you aren't. You are being a tool.

    Are humans animals? Yes or no.
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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    It's okay. We're big kids here. We can handle labels I think. Get ready the recess bell is about to ring!
    i no i am dum butt i lerneded that lables wur bad an not gud 4 IDentafeyeing peeple. That thay kep staireeyotipes uhlive.
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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I think I might be a little confused but are you saying we need to add a new race to define what people describe themselves as hispanic? If I remember from when I did my census there was the race (white, black, asian, etc) then another additional question asked if I was also hispanic. So are you saying instead of me identifying as white hispanic or whatever there should be another race box, which you call Mestizo? I think it is rather confusing for some, like for me I am a white hispanic but my husband is not white but he is not black or asian either. He does not have anglo features at all yet he would probably be put into the white category as well which doesn't really make sense.

    I don't care what you think about race. Not out of some biased sense but because there are actual scientific classifications on race. You don't have to "like how they sound". I don't care if you do or not frankly, they are what they are.


    If your husband is mixed race then so what? There's no "white race". Arabs have white skin. You don't consider them European though do you? Of course not, neither do they. There is no such thing as white. You're either European, Chinese, Amerindian, African, Japanese or some other race or a mix of races. There is no "white race", there is no "yellow, brown, orange or Hispanic" race either, as much as maybe you'd like there to be, there isn't.

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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    I don't care what you think about race. Not out of some biased sense but because there are actual scientific classifications on race. You don't have to "like how they sound". I don't care if you do or not frankly, they are what they are.


    If your husband is mixed race then so what? There's no "white race". Arabs have white skin. You don't consider them European though do you? Of course not, neither do they. There is no such thing as white. You're either European, Chinese, Amerindian, African, Japanese or some other race or a mix of races. There is no "white race", there is no "yellow, brown, orange or Hispanic" race either, as much as maybe you'd like there to be, there isn't.
    Look I don't know what your problem is, you started a thread about race so if you don't care what people think, why did you start this and what's the point if you don't even want to discuss how hispanic people feel about what you want to label us as? I don't really give a **** about race or color, which by your reply it didn't even seem like you read my actual post because I was trying to figure out your point in all this and all you do is come back at me very hostile. And please show me where I say I "like how they sound" because guess what- you can't.
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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Again I think you're mixed up maybe about the thread.

    Most of the Central Americans in the US are not Caucasians but are mixed race mestizos, mixed with both Amerindian and European and sometimes African. So they are not Caucasians as you claim.

    No Mestizo is not a race, it's a mix of races. That stated, Mestizo is an accurate racial label over "Hispanic" which tells you nothing about a persons racial heritage.


    Answering "I'm Hispanic" tells us nothing about your ancestors because:


    A 100% African person, a 100% Chinese person can be "Hispanic". Hispanic is not a race. It is a culture just as Christianity is a religion. Hispanic does not really tell us anything about you other than you perhaps eat tacos, which obviously isn't very telling about you.
    I eat tacos but am not Hispanic. I wonder if this makes me mixed-race.

    Seriously, I never hear anybody say "Mestizo" and think this is a little weird.

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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    i no i am dum butt i lerneded that lables wur bad an not gud 4 IDentafeyeing peeple. That thay kep staireeyotipes uhlive.
    Slurring your words, sounds like jive and Ebonics mixed, but dat's oookkk, ah knowed whad you ment.

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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I eat tacos but am not Hispanic. I wonder if this makes me mixed-race.

    Seriously, I never hear anybody say "Mestizo" and think this is a little weird.
    Its not weird but its not normal. However, if we call French speakers French and Germans "German" and English "English", and many Latin Americans refer to their language "castellano" rather than Spanish or espanol, it could be to call them "Castilians", which is a general term used for the group of Spanish dialects.

    Spanish language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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