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Thread: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    How about older people? Oh right, Obamacare took care of that one. The older you get the higher your rates go.
    65 and older get Medicare.
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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    So who exactly is going to decide who is fat? Will there be a compulsory national weight limit?

    You know when you make it harder for so called fat people to get medical care you are basically punishing them for being what you visually consider unhealthy. You might as well gather all the fat people up and put them in camps.

    All hail the insurance Nazi's!

    I hope that when you young skinny ****s get older some kid calls you fat.

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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    So who exactly is going to decide who is fat? Will there be a compulsory national weight limit?

    You know when you make it harder for so called fat people to get medical care you are basically punishing them for being what you visually consider unhealthy. You might as well gather all the fat people up and put them in camps.

    All hail the insurance Nazi's!

    I hope that when you young skinny ****s get older some kid calls you fat.

    Ummm......

    .......A Doctor who went to medical school and graduated and is sitting there pointing at a screen telling you "Mr So and So, you are medically fat."


    That's who. Exactly.


    Here's an example of doctors telling people they are fat. Doctors aren't Nazis and they aren't evil, they're just.. doctors..!!


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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Yeah but those aren't the norms.

    I mean really, why should I, as a 174 pound 6ft tall guy pay medical costs in my twenties that are ballooned by virtual hippo creatures in their 40's and 50's who sit around all day screaming at IQ 57's running around on fields full of illegal cattle growth hormones?


    I think that's unfair.
    You are preaching to the choir here. I agree 100%. My point is that there are exceptions. I have a serious, very rare, and very expensive illness. I don't have any bad habits, I'm not fat, and I don't do stupid careless things. I so wanted to find the illness was due to medical negligence as it certainly had the opportunity to be, but having repeatedly reviewed my own records, I realize it is not. I also have no risk factors for it. My mother had a baby brother who died with the same symptoms I have. They never knew what was really wrong with him. Many babies are born with it. A certain percentage of occurrences of this illness, are familial and caused by genetics. I have been in all the genetic studies and they have isolated a gene mutation for it. Nothing I did caused it. Medicine has no cure for it. Medicine can ward off the inevitable for a short time. But, fortunately, I worked long enough that I have really good insurance along with my Medicare, and I pay for it all, but at least I can pay. The healthy people in my group share the risk to pay for my illness, and I am sorry about that, but we all signed on the dotted line to do so. Sometimes fate just deals you a blow. I can attest to that. Don't be so smug. It could come around and bite you in the ass.
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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Like guys that cut trees down, or go down into ditches to dig, or welders, or boilermakers, or roofers, or chemists, or textile workers, or farmers, or steel workers on bridges, or deep sea fishermen, or doctors and nurses that deal with infectious diseases, or firefighters, or paramedics, or cops? Can't they change their hazardous lifestyle choices by changing jobs?
    Their lifestyle can be LESS hazardous and OSHA has set out a number of regulations to make their jobs less hazardous. The real jerk is the one who goes out on the weekend on a 4 wheeler drunk, flips it over, and spends the next 40 years in a nursing home at taxpayer expense. Big difference. (Yes, I've taken care of those dumbasses.)
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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    I think it's disgraceful that people continue to make such suggestions to penalize people who suffer from genetic imperfections and being fat has as much to do with genetics as anything else and medical science is becoming more aware of the connections every day.
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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Their lifestyle can be LESS hazardous and OSHA has set out a number of regulations to make their jobs less hazardous.
    My point is that what is being discussed in this thread is a dangerous precedent to set. Where does it end? It should never start. The insurance industry includes all these factors in their actuarial formulas. There's no reason to change that.

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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    See, that's what bothers me. Smoking is bad for you, no question, but it seems that smokers are the only ones who are called out on their behavior. Well that is until the fat people got called out in this thread.
    yep, used to make me really irate back in the day. if i posted all my online smoking rants from 2000 - 2008, it would crash the server.

    the thing is, we all have vices. smoking is a bad one, admittedly, but it's not impossible to stop. that's why i push the Carr book like a spambot every time smoking comes up. of course, most of us who quit that way do exactly the same thing.

    the bottom line is that we're all paying FAR too much for something that is not bankrupting people in other first world countries. given this, i can't get behind charging anyone a penny more regardless of their habits or state of fitness.

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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Yeah but those aren't the norms.

    I mean really, why should I, as a 174 pound 6ft tall guy pay medical costs in my twenties that are ballooned by virtual hippo creatures in their 40's and 50's who sit around all day screaming at IQ 57's running around on fields full of illegal cattle growth hormones?


    I think that's unfair.
    Do you also think it's unfair that people who don't have children or who's children are fully grown and living on their own should pay taxes to fund your education - deficient as that education seems to have been?
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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    My point is that what is being discussed in this thread is a dangerous precedent to set. Where does it end? It should never start. The insurance industry includes all these factors in their actuarial formulas. There's no reason to change that.
    It should start and in earnest. It will be good for society.

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