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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Doppelgangirl View Post

    I guess I'm just surprised so many think this is "normal."

    Given the BMI stats in the U.S., it's impossible. But mass media has obviously distorted perceptions, IMHO.

    It reminds me of how an individual with an eating disorder looks in the mirror and *genuinely* does not see themselves the way others do.

    "Normal" becomes completely distorted. In that sense, it's *not* "normal," at all.
    Probably. And maybe it's just me, the way I view the people around me. yes, there are lots of out of shape people, but I have started going to a local gym, so I am probably exposed to more people who are concerned about their fitness.

    I also see my son's friends and there is not a fat person among any of them, he's just 21 so most of them are lean and trim, that will probably be quite different in another 20 years.
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    I only have one thing to add to this.
    I hear a lot of folks in here making excuses as to why some people are fat. In my unit we have two guys who both had one of their legs blown off below the knee. Both of them are still very fit and can still out PT probably 90% of the military let alone the civilian world. If these guys can come back from an injury like that and still maintain that fitness level than there are very few excuses that I buy. My opinion but from what I have seen I would bet that probably 95% or higher of the population that are overweight because they have bad diets, don't exercise or more likely both.
    I would guess closer to 100%.

    And your right, there are no excuses for being a fat slob.

    Just a couple of weeks ago one of my son's friends was awarded the medal of honor (Recent Medal Of Honor Recipient Honored Monday At MCAS Miramar | KPBS). My son has referred to him as the "bionic man" because he has so many artifical parts. I asked my son how he knows him, he told me that he was his workout partner at the school gym.
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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Doppelgangirl View Post
    Are you suggesting the "average" male body looks like U.S. Soccer Team??? Or Tony Parker???

    Have you **been** to the beach this summer???

    No, I'm saying that they represent a normal body type. What I've seen at the beach, on the street, at the store, anywhere, is an obese body type.

    Unfortunately, obese is the new average.
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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Probably. And maybe it's just me, the way I view the people around me. yes, there are lots of out of shape people, but I have started going to a local gym, so I am probably exposed to more people who are concerned about their fitness.

    I also see my son's friends and there is not a fat person among any of them, he's just 21 so most of them are lean and trim, that will probably be quite different in another 20 years.
    It doesn't have to be. It is quite possible to remain lean and trim all your life.
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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Probably. And maybe it's just me, the way I view the people around me. yes, there are lots of out of shape people, but I have started going to a local gym, so I am probably exposed to more people who are concerned about their fitness.

    I also see my son's friends and there is not a fat person among any of them, he's just 21 so most of them are lean and trim, that will probably be quite different in another 20 years.
    I think the gym makes a huge difference! I read a study, IIRC, that said those closest to an individual can be the biggest impediment to successful diets/workouts/health/etc.
    It's a lot easier to pull someone down than it is to help someone up.

    I hate to age myself, but Facebook is a perfect example. Friends I had in high school, for the most part, don't look anything like they used to! Of course... there are those lucky few... that haven't aged a day... and can still devour copious amounts of Taco Bell at 2am w/ no regrets... yeah...*those* people...

    It seems like somewhere between early 30's-early 40's, bodies just.... change... You have to step up your game to maintain the same results. It's flat out annoying.

    I still think some of those weight measurements are unrealistic, though. The average woman in the US is a size 14. In the media, they're a 2.

    I remember joking with other moms about "normal" weight gain in pregnancy. A good friend said at a weigh-in, the nurse told her what the "recommended" amount was, and she flat out laughed. Tellingly, *many* of us could relate.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No, I'm saying that they represent a normal body type. What I've seen at the beach, on the street, at the store, anywhere, is an obese body type.

    Unfortunately, obese is the new average.
    OK! Apologies... I misunderstood.

    I don't know if I would go so far as to say *normal* but I get what you're saying.

    I don't know what's worse... "obese" being the real average, or all of us thinking "average" is unrealistically thin...

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Good God! What on earth does this have to do with being overweight or obese? Get a grip on yourself dude!

    The Google Exec was married with kids.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...tive/12427649/

    He paid that woman for sex. Why did he do that? If he was married with kids and very rich, why did he pay some skinny young woman to sleep with him on his yacht? Could it be because he is medically obese? I think so.

    I would say that guy looks like the average American. Medically fat yet would probably come into this thread and start arguing that they were "average" *gasp!*

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    The Google Exec was married with kids.
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    He paid that woman for sex. Why did he do that? If he was married with kids and very rich, why did he pay some skinny young woman to sleep with him on his yacht? Could it be because he is medically obese? I think so.

    I would say that guy looks like the average American. Medically fat yet would probably come into this thread and start arguing that they were "average" *gasp!*
    Sorry, I'm not seeing what this has to do with your thread topic. Okay, so he's fat and cheats on his wife? So what? What does any of that have to do with charging him more for health insurance?

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No, I'm saying that they represent a normal body type. What I've seen at the beach, on the street, at the store, anywhere, is an obese body type.

    Unfortunately, obese is the new average.
    So true. I remember when I was in high school, most of the kids were of average size. There were maybe 5 obese kids in my whole school, and they stuck out. Now, I see the kids at school, and it seems like at least 1/4 of them are obesies.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    I went to my GP to ask about weight loss plans. He told me to stop eating fatty, so I asked if that meant stuff like pies and pizza and fries. "No" he said. "Stop eating, Fatty!"
    Don't work out, work in.

    Never eat anything that's served in a bucket.

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