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Thread: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    The question is vague.

    Higher medical costs meaning what?

    Higher insurance premiums? The answer is DEFINITELY 'yes'...obviously if you are fat then your future health costs will probably be far higher then someone who is fit.

    Higher costs for medical procedures/drugs? Obviously not.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    The question is vague.

    Higher medical costs meaning what?

    Higher insurance premiums? The answer is DEFINITELY 'yes'...obviously if you are fat then your future health costs will probably be far higher then someone who is fit.
    agree

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    The question is vague.

    Higher medical costs meaning what?

    Higher insurance premiums? The answer is DEFINITELY 'yes'...obviously if you are fat then your future health costs will probably be far higher then someone who is fit.

    Higher costs for medical procedures/drugs? Obviously not.
    Being overweight doesnt always mean that insurances will have to fork out more money. Future health costs dont even exist if the person dies early. Or perhaps becomes fit?

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Being overweight doesnt always mean that insurances will have to fork out more money. Future health costs dont even exist if the person dies early. Or perhaps becomes fit?
    Same thing with smoking. Smokers don't always get smoking related illnesses, but yet they have to pay more. If the obese person gets fit, then they wouldn't be obese and wouldn't pay more.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Being overweight doesnt always mean that insurances will have to fork out more money. Future health costs dont even exist if the person dies early. Or perhaps becomes fit?
    If the person dies early or becomes fit, then their medical insurance rate will go down.

    Maybe even down to zero.
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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Are body mass indexes not already taken into consideration? Like smoking and drinking? Such people already have higher rates, at least in some policies.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    If the person dies early or becomes fit, then their medical insurance rate will go down.

    Maybe even down to zero.
    One year of cancer treatment or open heart surgery would cost more than all my health care since birth (I'm 53) and it will cost more than most healthy people's health care for 20 years. So no, no savings that way.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Are body mass indexes not already taken into consideration? Like smoking and drinking? Such people already have higher rates, at least in some policies.
    They have higher life insurance rates, not higher health insurance rates.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    They have higher life insurance rates, not higher health insurance rates.
    If they're more likely to die, aren't they more likely to need health care as well?
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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I was diagnosed with Type 2 not long ago. Here's my history:

    1. My father was diagnosed with diabetes in 1969. Heavily insulin dependant.
    2. I was diagnosed with Gestational Diabetes with all of my pregnancies, and was insulin dependent with all 3.
    3. I was told by my OB that given my family history as well as the Gestational Diabetes, I had a 90% change of developing Type 2 by the time I was 50.
    4. I have been underweight most of my life due to hyperthyroidism which I was diagnosed with in the early 1990s.

    I am not heavy (just the opposite), I watch what I eat, I exercise religiously, and I still went full out diabtes which couldn't be controlled with diet & exercise (I am now on Lantus insulin).

    You are 100% spot on that Type 2 can be genetic, and the realilty is, my diabetes during pregnancy all but assured the reality of me ending up as a diabetic.
    Yes, there are times when its unavoidable, but for the majority of cases it is a lifestyle disease. Moreover, even if clinical obesity was not a risk factor for type 2 diabetes, it still would result in hundreds of billions of dollars if medical costs nationally every year due to increased heart disease rates, increased cancer rates, and increased joint deterioration rates.
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