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Thread: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Okay, but that doesn't answer my question. Do you confront fat people when you see them?

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Okay, but that doesn't answer my question. Do you confront fat people when you see them?

    I told my boss to his face "You know, with your body type, well, we have different body types."

    I also have told several girls that I'm sorry you're not in shape enough for me and asked them to leave. They left.

    So yeah, I do.


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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    I told my boss to his face "You know, with your body type, well, we have different body types."

    I also have told several girls that I'm sorry you're not in shape enough for me and asked them to leave. They left.

    So yeah, I do.

    Oh my, so impressive.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Oh my, so impressive.
    I have to admit, considering my boss doesn't have the ability to fire me..

    It was absolutely badass. His blubbery face went so red. It was great. I loved it.

    =)

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    I have to admit, considering my boss doesn't have the ability to fire me..

    It was absolutely badass. His blubbery face went so red. It was great. I loved it.

    =)
    That doesnt make you a bad ass, it makes you something else. It also frames the irrelevance of your position quite well.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'm sorry. I think you are wrong. We've had a similar program here in Massachusetts that went into effect in 2006 I believe. I don't smoke, but I have also Never been asked if I smoke. My premiums are not any higher this year than last either. They are exactly the same.

    The way it works is everyone has to buy insurance. If you cannot afford insurance, insurance will be provided for you through the state's various programs, depending upon where you fall in the poverty guidelines. Those who do NOT buy insurance are punished on their tax returns by a certain percentage (I know this because I had to pay a $600 penalty on my taxes one year when I did not purchase health insurance).

    The idea is that EVERYONE participates to bring premiums down for everyone.
    The ins. in Massachusetts is very unpopular, and very expensive, I read. Obamacare is based on it, as we know. EXCEPT I guess your state doesn't stick it to the older citizens and charge more for smokers. Under Obamacare, there are two areas that ins. cos. are allowed to charge higher premiums to: Smokers, those over 50 (and the premiums can increase for each year you are over 50 - even if you're much healthier than a 40 year old, as I am).

    The IDEA may be for everyone to participate, but not everyone is participating, and premiums went UP, not down, for almost everyone. Those articles saying costs went down for insureds? They're including the subsidized insureds. To me, the premium is STILL $600/month (or whatever), even if you get Aunt Minnie or Uncle Sam to pay part of it for you. For most of us, we have to pay the $600 (compared to maybe $400 last year).
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    No, not everyone has to buy insurance. Someone has to buy insurance FOR you, whether its your employer, Aunt Minnie, Uncle Sam, your state, or whatever.

    This year vs last year doesn't apply to Massachusetts, of course, since you had Obamacare before (only it wasn't called that). Your states' premiums skyrocketed years ago. The same situation exists with Maine, I believe, who installed an Obamacare type program in the late 90's (at which time premiums skyrocketed). Those who suffered the high premiums years ago are like the old wives tale about mothers who gave birth: With time you forget the pain.

    If you are fine with this, please send me a check every month for $250. I have to pay for that obese man who eats pizza and drinks beer....he needs to buy a silver Obamacare plan (subsidized), so I have to pay $250 extra for the high claims he'll be turning in (for his diabetes type 2), and we all have to kick in for the subsidies. That extra $250 means that I can't afford anything but the bottom of the bronze plans. So that the pizza guy can get his silver plan. Wadda country, huh? Reward an unhealthy lifestyle with better health care at a lower cost, and punish the healthy lifestyle people who have managed to dig their way out of poverty, like myself. Wadda country!

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    You guys are just really mad because you're fatties.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    So, if I understand you correctly, the charts are infallible and should be followed to the letter... or number. There are no legitimate mitigating factors for anybody. One either falls in the good zone, or they don't. Period. Am I interpreting your statement correctly?
    There are just not as many as you'd claim from "legitimate exceptions" (which is bogus, there are very few of these to begin with).


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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Yes they get in the way?

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs?




    Yes, just as smokers, drinkers and other high risk categories should as well.

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