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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    For those who think yes, what about folks doctors judge are too thin?

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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Smoking is a choice. Why should non smokers have to pay for the diseases associated with smoking?
    Same reason we subsidize all sorts of crazy dangerous behaviors people do that gets them injured.

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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Did they only go after the smokers, or did they go after everyone with a risky lifestyle and/or habit?
    Just smokers. Big surprise.

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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Just smokers. Big surprise.
    See, that's what bothers me. Smoking is bad for you, no question, but it seems that smokers are the only ones who are called out on their behavior. Well that is until the fat people got called out in this thread.

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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Smoking is a choice. Why should non smokers have to pay for the diseases associated with smoking?
    Too much opportunity for the health care industry to **** everyone if we go further down that road. No thanks.

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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    No. Your attempt at shaming people who don't fit your societal standards will not affect the people whose pictures you posted. They can afford higher costs for healthcare. Your idea will disproportionately affect the poor, who many of already can't afford quality healthcare, and those who still choose to go to a doctor despite the increased cost will be more likely to become more obese because they will have to turn to cheap, unhealthy food, as many of the poor already have done.
    Encouraging and rewarding healthy lifestyles is not 'shaming.'

    Let me give you a real life situation: Methamphetamine producers/dealers frequently get severe burns over large portions of their bodies when a batch blows up all over them. I know of one burn unit that had to treat so many injured, uninsured meth producers that it was well on the way to closing its doors due to lack of funding. In fact, it may already have, I have not talked to anyone who would know lately. Treatment of serious burns involves long expensive hospitalizations, expensive surgeries like skin grafts, and expensive medications to prevent or treat infections. So, we are all equal in your eyes. Go cook yourself along with your batch of meth and Dr. Feelgood will treat you with the most modern methods available to medical science with no regard for the cost to people who likely are just scraping by in their own households to pay the bills.

    That is a really lopsided house you are building there. People really need to expect to have to be responsible for the choices they make in life. Granted there are many illnesses that are not so clear cut, and with medications that cause metabolic changes, obesity is one. But cooking meth , smoking, doing drugs, driving while drunk, and many other things are choices. Making those choices should come with a price for the person who made them.
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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    This forum is full of fat people. You'll never get them to admit they got there because of lifestyle choices. Seriously though, many overweight people hide behind medical reasons such as hypothyroidism, Cushing's Syndrome & PW Syndrome for what is clearly a lifestyle choice over the course of MANY years. 90% of gay person will not get AIDS, 90% of white people will not die of cancer, 90% of people who drive cars will not get into a car crash, but upwards of 90% of people with weight problems are there because of lifestyle choices, poor diets and lack of exercise. Even in the case where genetics and illness are involved, there are ways to push back obesity. So yes, barring any problems with genetics or illness, fat people should pay higher premiums on average.
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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Once again, how about thin people?

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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    What about epileptics? Or mentally retarded? Or diabetics?
    Being fat is a condition of epilepsy? Of mental retardation?

    On the other hand obesity is often a major contributor to the onset of Type II diabetes. There is a great deal of research that indicates major weight loss and physical activity can and does greatly lessen the affects of diabetes II to the point of reducing or obviating the need for medication while improving circulation, reducing blood pressure and cholesterol and thus reducing overall medical costs.

    There is a direct correlation of lifestyle and diabetes II.
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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Same reason we subsidize all sorts of crazy dangerous behaviors people do that gets them injured.
    The research is there that smoking is hazardous to your health. Living prudently, using good hygiene, eating a healthy diet, driving while sober are all things that should be rewarded, not punished by making the person promoting his/her own good health pay for the bad habits of others which have been statistically shown to cause illness.
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