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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    It's discrimination, I tell you. What we need are some fat pride parades.
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    Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    If smokers are required to pay more for health insurance, obese people should be required to pay more, and it will happen. They should have started charging obese people more before smokers, as obesity is a much larger expense to our health care system than smokers are. The cost of smokers to our health care system is miniscule compared to obese people, and that's not to mention the obese people who also smoke.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Oh this is such bs I'm sorry.

    The man is FAT. Who cares about some distinction between obese and fat if we aren't talking about sumo wrestlers? They're the same thing.

    The guy is medically fat (OR IF THAT OFFENDS YOU, dun dun dun, overweight!!!!!). He is not healthy with that stomach. Anyone who says he's healthy with that stomach is delusional beyond help (which I'm not denying some probably are).


    I can't stand it when I'm at work and some fat guy who CLEARLY is about 40 pounds overweight (FAT) starts to rant about what great shape he's in. We need to call a fat person a fat person in this country already. It's become insane.



    (Hypothetical) Look, I think it's great that you aren't 300 pounds at 34. I really do. But let's also be honest. Being visibly fat while still not being 300 pounds isn't a whole lot better from a medical standpoint. You're still royally screwed over.

    For a guy who is too scared to publicize his political leanings, you sure have strong opinions. For me, I opt to be kind. That's the decent thing, IMO. No one ever said on his death bed, "I wish I hadn't been so kind to people." Fat is a derogatory term, IMO, unless you're talking in a medical sense, like body fat percentage. The correct terminology, if you want to use "fat," is "overfat." Because everyone has fat. We are supposed to. It's harmful to be overfat, though.

    But stick with simple three letter words, if you're more comfortable with that.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Sugar isn't a poison.

    Sugar is the fuel on which our bodies run. Without it, we would die.

    The problem with diabetes (both type 1 and type 2) is that it interferes with our ability to properly process sugar in order to get the energy from it that we need to function. Instead, it just accumulates in the blood, where too much of it leads to all sorts of damage all over the body. With type 2, it also tends to get converted in excessive amounts to fat, even when not enough of it is being processed into energy.
    I should have said "refined sugar." But no, BTW, the body does not need sugar to function. Some people live on a protein-fat diet alone. Some native people, like Eskimos, traveling groups of...what are they...lap-something tribes? And of course people who believe that protein-fat diets are the way to live.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    ...of course people who believe that protein-fat diets are the way to live.
    Like that Doctor Atkins.

    But didn't he die a few years back? Arteries clogged with all that fat he was eating.
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    Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Like that Doctor Atkins.

    But didn't he die a few years back? Arteries clogged with all that fat he was eating.
    He was pretty damn old though, like 72.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Like that Doctor Atkins.

    But didn't he die a few years back? Arteries clogged with all that fat he was eating.
    Yes. He died before his time, all right. But actually the Atkins diet is MAINLY protein with a somewhat high % of fat, and LIMITED carbs. It's not a no-carb diet. There are some no-carb diets, though.

    I don't believe a protein-fat only diet is healthy. I'm just saying the fact that man has existed on earth in places where they had only protein & fat to live, and they did live without carbs quite well. (Carbs, as you know, converts to sugar in the blood.)

    My idea of a healthy diet is fruits & veggies with some hi-fiber carbs, fish.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It's discrimination, I tell you. What we need are some fat pride parades.
    Then we'll have to have skinny pride parades too!

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    I don't think we should start charging more for "high risk" people. Where does it end? There are also different risks related to gender, ethnicity, etc. Having a past history of being overweight and smoking, etc., is also going to be a risk.

    Also, I think that poor people are at the highest risk for poor health overall, so we would be "punishing" the poor with higher premiums? It doesn't make sense if you think about it. The whole point is to share the expenses so that no one group of people has a difficult time affording health care right?

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    No, they need their own risk pools. Separate the pools by risks and rates should be set accordingly.

    I still think the bigger picture of cost of care is not being addressed here. If it didn't cost so much to go to the Dr. or hospital, it wouldn't be as big a problem. Congress won't tackle that problem though, they would rather everyone subsidize the insurance industry's profits. Vote NO this mid-term for those whose top donors are finance or insurance industries.

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