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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Did they only go after the smokers, or did they go after everyone with a risky lifestyle and/or habit?
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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    I assume that you mean should our congress critters expand the actualrial risk factors for establishing premium rates of PPACA approved medical care insurance to include obesity. On that basis I answered yes.

    I seems ridiculous that only age and tobacco use should be considered for setting premium rates.
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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    If that's the case, then people born with, or who develop, medical conditions that they can't change should pay more also.
    That seems to be the case for age now - everyone will develop that medical condition.
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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs?
    They already do.

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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    First of all...no one is "judged" obese. A medical professional makes a diagnosis that a person is obese. Which medical treatments would you consider are directly related to "obesity"?

    Is obesity a contributing factor or a direct cause???

    Which illnesses and diseases would you "judge" as needing to be charged a higher rate to fat people?

    The question is if a doctor professionally medically judged you to be obese, should you pay more? I say yes.


    Being obese medically speaking means you are officially "not healthy", even if you don't currently have any diseases, your risks are usually triple if not more than a non medically obese person. Hence obese people by their very statistical likelihood of increased risk are in fact raising costs already on everybody without them even being individually raised on said fat person for being obese as of now.


    In other words all non medically fat people are already paying more of their money so fat people can get equal treatment even with triple or more the risks they pose. Fat people are currently "robbing" the rest of us because we are paying for their essential "Medical Equality".
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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs?
    No, unless rates are also going to go up for everyone else who is involved in voluntarily unhealthy behaviors. The whole purpose of insurance is to spread the risk around. Charging more to people who are higher risk defeats the purpose.
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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Some of those aren't preventable.....

    How can you even begin to compare those??? Tells us a lot about your intelligence..
    I think given the track the government is on, eventually people who have unhealthy eating habits will be deemed enemy's of social equality and a drain on government resources. The government will then step in and make these people wards of the state, sentenced to social re-orientation camps with a focus on proper eating habits in a socially just world. I would guess they would be allowed to go free once they have shown proper respect for the state, and the nature of their gluttony.

    In the end, they will only have a short term impact on health care costs. Of course, this would be in the future, and depend on the government to continue it's program of control over peoples lives.


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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Why punish people for being overweight?
    why punish people whom are healthy?

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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    No. Your attempt at shaming people who don't fit your societal standards will not affect the people whose pictures you posted. They can afford higher costs for healthcare. Your idea will disproportionately affect the poor, who many of already can't afford quality healthcare, and those who still choose to go to a doctor despite the increased cost will be more likely to become more obese because they will have to turn to cheap, unhealthy food, as many of the poor already have done.

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    re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    as i said in the post. they screwed the poor smokers right to the wall. it was insane. glad i quit, and thank you Allen Carr.
    Smoking is a choice. Why should non smokers have to pay for the diseases associated with smoking?
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