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Thread: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Lol that post would be the greatest argument for why the medically judged obese should pay more. "I type about them EVERY DAY."


    Wow we are so screwed as a society.. Lmao.. I cannot stop laughing..

    I was talking about car accident victims with limited mobility, or no mobility.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    I wouldn't call that guy obese! If he is, every professional football player can be called obese, when they're just big muscular guys. He doesn't have jowls or rolls of fat. Look at the difference in height between him and the man behind him.

    Greetings, Ryan5.
    I actually prefer that body type than a skinny little boy body. He looks kind of cuddly and warm to me.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Point is, most of these people aren't going to be able to afford to pay extra for their healthcare. Are you aware that black people are more prone to hypertension, diabetes AND obesity? Are you going to charge black people more insurance than Asian people, who have a lower risk? These are the things you are going to start getting into. You MUST think of the unintentional effects.
    Do you realize that the reason for those differences between blacks and Asians is almost entirely attributable to diet?
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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Do you realize that the reason for those differences between blacks and Asians is almost entirely attributable to diet?
    That is besides the point. The African American obesity rates are the highest. That's the point.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I actually prefer that body type than a skinny little boy body. He looks kind of cuddly and warm to me.
    He looks healthy to me - plus anybody that likes ice cream cones is okay by me, too, since he is enjoying life!

    Greetings, ChrisL.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That is besides the point. The African American obesity rates are the highest. That's the point.
    So what is wrong with pricing the risk of being obese into health insurance premiums and offering programs and incentives for those that are obese to eat better and be more active? Obesity is bad for your health and costs this country hundreds of billions a year. Why not provide financial incentives to improve your health?
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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    He looks healthy to me - plus anybody that likes ice cream cones is okay by me, too, since he is enjoying life!

    Greetings, ChrisL.
    Greetings polgara!

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    So what is wrong with pricing the risk of being obese into health insurance premiums and offering programs and incentives for those that are obese to eat better and be more active? Obesity is bad for your health and costs this country hundreds of billions a year. Why not provide financial incentives to improve your health?
    Your view on this is MUCH too narrow. I don't think you know much about the medical field and the causes and effects of diseases and that even females and males have different risk factors for different diseases just because of gender ALONE.

    A person is more likely to develop type 2 diabetes if they:
    o have a family history of diabetes
    o are a member of an ethnic group like African Americans
    o are overweight or obese
    o are 45 year old or older
    o had diabetes while pregnant (gestational diabetes)
    o have pre-diabetes (glucose levels are elevated but not high enough to be
    diagnosed as diabetes)
    o have high blood pressure
    o have abnormal cholesterol (lipid) levels
    o are not getting enough physical activity
    o have polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS)
    o have blood vessel problems affecting the heart, brain or legs
    o have dark, thick and velvety patches of skin around the neck and armpits (This is
    called acanthosis nigricans.)
     Gestational diabetes develops during pregnancy. Women who have had gestational diabetes
    have a 35 to 60 percent chance of developing diabetes, mostly type 2, in the next 10 to 20 years.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    He looks healthy to me - plus anybody that likes ice cream cones is okay by me, too, since he is enjoying life!

    Greetings, ChrisL.
    He may be cuddly and warm, I don't know. I usually don't think of men as "cuddly", but that's just me. He could be a really nice guy, too, one you'd like to share a beer with and shoot the breeze. He is, however, more at risk for certain diseases than he would be if he were to lose a bit of weight. He shouldn't pay more for health insurance because he likes ice cream or because someone thinks he doesn't look good. He should pay more because the choices he makes are likely to cost more, pure and simple.

    Were he a physically fit and athletic motorcycle racer, he should pay more also, and for the same reason.
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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    He may be cuddly and warm, I don't know. I usually don't think of men as "cuddly", but that's just me. He could be a really nice guy, too, one you'd like to share a beer with and shoot the breeze. He is, however, more at risk for certain diseases than he would be if he were to lose a bit of weight. He shouldn't pay more for health insurance because he likes ice cream or because someone thinks he doesn't look good. He should pay more because the choices he makes are likely to cost more, pure and simple.

    Were he a physically fit and athletic motorcycle racer, he should pay more also, and for the same reason.
    : Do you think the man pictured could be considered obese? I tend to think of obese as rolls of fat, huge thighs, skin hanging from upper arms, etc - like some of the photos of WalMart shoppers that regularly get posted here! Maybe I've got the wrong mental picture of what could be considered obese. He doesn't look warm and cuddly to me either - more like a policeman or someone who works in construction, who doesn't want any :

    Greetings, Dittohead not.

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