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Thread: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs?
    They should pay their medical bills regardless. You pay for yours, I'll pay for mine, they can pay for theirs.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Mine is the same but in my defense I have a bad back, bad knees and arthritis. I have enough braces, heating pads, ice packs, comfort cushions, NSAIDS, meds, creams, roll on's and patches to start a pharmacy. I eat half the calories I used too in my 30's and still struggle with weight gain.
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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Mine is the same but in my defense I have a bad back, bad knees and arthritis. I have enough braces, heating pads, ice packs, comfort cushions, NSAIDS, meds, creams, roll on's and patches to start a pharmacy. I eat half the calories I used too in my 30's and still struggle with weight gain.
    Sorry to hear that, and that's another issue. Some people cannot help but be overweight because of their limited mobility.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Sorry to hear that, and that's another issue. Some people cannot help but be overweight because of their limited mobility.

    Thank you.
    Don't get me wrong, I have a good life, it's just hard sometimes. I used to be quite active, but painful joints will force you to slow down.
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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Thank you.
    Don't get me wrong, I have a good life, it's just hard sometimes. I used to be quite active, but painful joints will force you to slow down.
    You're welcome. I do a lot of strength training in the hopes of preventing those kinds of issues as I age. I've heard that if you strengthen the muscles around those joints, they aren't as bothersome.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You're welcome. I do a lot of strength training in the hopes of preventing those kinds of issues as I age. I've heard that if you strengthen the muscles around those joints, they aren't as bothersome.
    I was an athlete and did a lot of physical training most my life, which I thought was helping me. But it's the very, over exertion of my muscles and the corresponding joints that caused the wear, tear and eventual damage. Much of my arthritis is do to my strenuous exercising, according to my doctors. I asked them, what should I have done, and they said, less impact and more moderation. We thought "no pain, no gain" back then, but now they know better.

    If you look at the statistics, professional athletes in general have more physical problems from overuse, less quality and shorter life spans. Even with arthritis, you need to do some movement but it varies, day to day and is extremely limited.

    Of course much of this is situational and genetics, but I can't stress enough low impact, like swimming, yoga, Thai Chi, cycling and walking. Running, stepping, climbing, skiing, and any sports with contact are all very rough on you in old age. Even golfing can be hazardous, if you're an intense player.
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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I was an athlete and did a lot of physical training most my life, which I thought was helping me. But it's the very, over exertion of my muscles and the corresponding joints that caused the wear, tear and eventual damage. Much of my arthritis is do to my strenuous exercising, according to my doctors. I asked them, what should I have done, and they said, less impact and more moderation. We thought "no pain, no gain" back then, but now they know better.

    If you look at the statistics, professional athletes in general have more physical problems from overuse, less quality and shorter life spans. Even with arthritis, you need to do some movement but it varies, day to day and is extremely limited.

    Of course much of this is situational and genetics, but I can't stress enough low impact, like swimming, yoga, Thai Chi, cycling and walking. Running, stepping, climbing, skiing, and any sports with contact are all very rough on you in old age. Even golfing can be hazardous, if you're an intense player.
    Yes, the most strenuous sport I've ever done was gymnastics, and that was years ago when I was like 10 or 12 years old. I've never done contact sports or anything like that. I do find that after working (sitting in my stupid chair), my neck and shoulders bother me, but if I exercise, the pain is MUCH less.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes, the most strenuous sport I've ever done was gymnastics, and that was years ago when I was like 10 or 12 years old. I've never done contact sports or anything like that. I do find that after working (sitting in my stupid chair), my neck and shoulders bother me, but if I exercise, the pain is MUCH less.

    A common area for wear and tear is the C4 vertebrae disk in the neck area, basically the one your head swivels on. Mine is damaged and causes me pain if I sleep wrong or run too much hot water on it. Also, holding your arm in an outward position for a long period, like a computer mouse will set it off.

    Women are more susceptible to Fibromyalgia, Rheumatoid arthritis and osteoporosis. You sound like you're being pretty smart about your exercise routine, so hopefully you'll stay healthy into your senior years.
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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    A common area for wear and tear is the C4 vertebrae disk in the neck area, basically the one your head swivels on. Mine is damaged and causes me pain if I sleep wrong or run too much hot water on it. Also, holding your arm in an outward position for a long period, like a computer mouse will set it off.

    Women are more susceptible to Fibromyalgia, Rheumatoid arthritis and osteoporosis. You sound like you're being pretty smart about your exercise routine, so hopefully you'll stay healthy into your senior years.
    Thanks, and what you describe above sounds exactly like my problem with my neck and shoulders. It only hurts when I'm working though, something about my computer chair I think. I think I should look into getting a new chair.

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    Re: Should medically judged fat people pay higher medical costs? [W:87]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Thanks, and what you describe above sounds exactly like my problem with my neck and shoulders. It only hurts when I'm working though, something about my computer chair I think. I think I should look into getting a new chair.

    Two things to address first, make sure your screen is level with your head. If you have to look up or downward to see the monitor, then that will cause positional pain. Either raise/drop the chair or monitor. If your chair doesn't adjust, you can raise the screen by placing a book underneath it. If you need to lower it try to pull the monitor forward from the top with both hands. Some of the monitors will let you adjust the tilt on them up or down, by pushing the top forward or back.

    The other consideration is resting your mouse pointing limb, from always being extended on the chair arm. When you have your arm positioned like that for a long period, it causes pain also. Both those moves put exertion on the C4 disk. Try pulling your arm away from the mouse, when your not using it and rest it in your lap. I'm ambidextrous and had to switch sides, using my left hand to control the mouse for awhile, till my neck got better.

    Of course ice packs on the neck for 10 minutes at a time and Advil or Aleve can help a lot.
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