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Thread: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Woah. Who isn't part of some group that has been the target of some slur or denigrating comment?
    In post 51 I just posted where the name came from: But to keep it simple as I firmly believe in the KISS principal here it is again:

    The Washington Redskins were originally known as the Boston Braves. In 1933, co-owner George Preston Marshall changed the name to the Redskins, possibly in recognition of the then–head coach William Henry "Lone Star" Dietz, who claimed to be part Sioux. On July 6, 1933, the Boston Herald reported that "the change was made to avoid confusion with the Braves baseball team and the team that is to be coached by an Indian (Dietz)... with several Indian players."[6] Dietz's ancestry has been questioned by some scholars, as a birth certificate and census records recorded his parents as white. This does not preclude his having had Sioux ancestry as well.[7] In 1933, the Boston Braves moved from Braves Field, which they shared with baseball's Boston Braves, to Fenway Park, already occupied by the Boston Red Sox. John F. Banzhaf III, Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University Law School, cites a newspaper article from 1933 in which Marshall is quoted as saying the name was selected only to save money by not having to change the logo of the Braves, and not to honor Dietz or the Indian players.[8] There was however, no logo on the Braves football uniform of 1932. The Washington Redskins current logo, which was inspired by Native American, Walter Wetzel, former president of the National Congress of American Indians, was introduced in 1972.[9]

    It is very possible the name was chosen to honer their coach and several Indian players the Boston Braves football team had at the time. Which became the Boston Redskins and later moved to Washington. Also interesting is who the current logo came from of the screaming Indian with a Mohawk.
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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    The libs are at it again, never thinking past the moment. So, what about all the other teams with a name that a handful of people will go out of their way to get offended by? Indians, Braves, Redskins, Blue Devils, etc... Should Kraft or whoever stop selling white crackers?

    I must say, I also have never heard "Redskins" ever used as a slur in any way.
    I like Mark Levin's idea; drop "Washington" from their name, it is more offensive.
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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Im not sure, is honky or cracker a slur?
    Not really.

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Im not sure, is honky or cracker a slur?
    Yeah it is, notice there are no teams named as such.

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    How many team names use a white slur that refers to race?
    Fighting Irish.

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Surely we have more significant things to concern ourselves with. I do.

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    The libs are at it again, never thinking past the moment. So, what about all the other teams with a name that a handful of people will go out of their way to get offended by? Indians, Braves, Redskins, Blue Devils, etc... Should Kraft or whoever stop selling white crackers?

    I must say, I also have never heard "Redskins" ever used as a slur in any way.
    I like Mark Levin's idea; drop "Washington" from their name, it is more offensive.
    Indians, Braves, Blue Devils(are we attacking smurfs here?), are all fine because they are not racial descriptors.

    White crackers? seriously? That doesn't even make sense... we're talking about racial epithets. If Kraft had a picture of a white slave owner on their Saltine boxes then sure but... wtf?

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Fighting Irish.
    That is their nickname and that is not a slur... lol.

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Surely we have more significant things to concern ourselves with. I do.
    Yet you needed to make this comment.

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    This thread is about the word, not the football team, that is a separate issue.
    I do not think it is possible to separate the two, this whole brouhaha was caused by a federal government agency trying to dictate to a football team to change their name by revoking their patent. If this didn't happen we would not be talking about this and you would not have started your thread. But if it pleases you, I will vacate the thread.
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