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Thread: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Obviously it's not...not in the broad and absolute way you're presenting it. Your definitions don't even back up that assertion. It CAN be used in an offensive and slurring manner, but it's not it's only use. And the reality is the way it's "most often" actually used is not something dictionaries will actually acknowledge...which is the same reason the potential ethnic slur "yankee" makes no mention of a baseball team despite the majority of times in the modern day that word is used is in reference to the sports team. The Washington Redskins are utilizing the "dated" original meaning and intented version of the word as a neutral, at worst, referential word for Native Americans similar to how the NAACP and the United Negro College Fund continue to use a dated referential word for African Americans.
    Is nigger a slur? You can use it in a polite manner with your friend to say good morning, "what's good my nigger?". Does that make it no longer a slur?

    Yes yankee is a slur too. However it doesn't refer to skin color and is not racial. In modern times it is no longer accepted to use racial descriptors and or stereotypes with people. Also Native Americans lost their land in a bloody and devastating conflict in which they were shamed. If you were a white person < 1% of the population in a country dominated by Native Americans that took your land a couple hundred years ago and had a team called the Oda-She-Nae Whitefaces or the Yazzie Gringos could you see it possibly as a slur?

    As I said earlier technically it is a slur whether you like it or not. However is it offensive? I don't know, some say yes, some say no, I guess it depends who you ask.

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    I am just glad that the issue has hit the senate floor. My god those guys must have been so bored with nothing else to work on.

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Is nigger a slur? You can use it in a polite manner with your friend to say good morning, "what's good my nigger?". Does that make it no longer a slur?

    Yes yankee is a slur too. However it doesn't refer to skin color and is not racial. In modern times it is no longer accepted to use racial descriptors and or stereotypes with people. Also Native Americans lost their land in a bloody and devastating conflict in which they were shamed. If you were a white person < 1% of the population in a country dominated by Native Americans that took your land a couple hundred years ago and had a team called the Oda-She-Nae Whitefaces or the Yazzie Gringos could you see it possibly as a slur?

    As I said earlier technically it is a slur whether you like it or not. However is it offensive? I don't know, some say yes, some say no, I guess it depends who you ask.
    Clearly nigger is a term of endearment. Ever heard any rap lyrics or watched any movies.

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Because its not an insult.
    Go up to a group of Natives and say "hey redskins what's up" and see what happens. If you don't have any living in your area go up to a group of blacks and say "yo black skins, whaaasup!". If that fails find a group of Asians and call 'em yellow faces, see how it goes.

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Except "ni&&er" (I hate that word) doesn't refer to any physical traits.
    Research is your friend:

    Nigger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Nigger is a noun in the English language. The word originated as a neutral term referring to black people, as a variation of the Spanish/Portuguese noun negro, a descendant of the Latin adjective niger ("color black").[1] Often used disparagingly, by the mid 20th century, particularly in the United States, it suggested that its target is extremely unsophisticated. Its usage had become unambiguously pejorative, a common ethnic slur usually directed at blacks of Sub-Saharan African descent.
    You simply are way out of your league when it comes to discussions that demand a person actually know the origin of terms.
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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Is Redskin a slur?
    Whilst it's of course not as good as British it's no where near as bad as Belgian.

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Go up to a group of Natives and say "hey redskins what's up" and see what happens. If you don't have any living in your area go up to a group of blacks and say "yo black skins, whaaasup!". If that fails find a group of Asians and call 'em yellow faces, see how it goes.
    Hyperbole and a strawman.
    I have a good friend that is Seminole. I don't call him Redskins any more than he calls me pale face. But if we did, we would probably laugh at each other.

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Clearly nigger is a term of endearment. Ever heard any rap lyrics or watched any movies.
    So only the well known slurs are not ok?

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    So only the well known slurs are not ok?
    The United States of the Offended. You should join them.

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Hyperbole and a strawman.
    I have a good friend that is Seminole. I don't call him Redskins any more than he calls me pale face. But if we did, we would probably laugh at each other.
    How is it a strawman? You say its not a slur and not an insult, so what is wrong with referring to somebody as a Redskin then? Do you think your Seminole friend would like a stranger to refer to him as Redskin?

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