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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Is this theatre's name a slur? : Redskin Theatre in Anadarko, OK - Cinema Treasures




    I don't believe that the people who named this theater in a heavily Native-American part of the USA intended to offend anyone.

    funny thing,,,others cant tell me what offends me...only i can make that distinction..
    you too..
    like your theatre, the name in all likelyhood is not percieved/chosen as disparaging...
    so its not..
    i would be more offended if somebody thought they could speak for me...or censor something in my name....its bull****.

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    What cities do those teams represent?
    The great states of Alabama and Tennessee, all the cities therein are represented by these fine mascots.
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    Good for them (I guess.)

    My fathers family is from Nashville, Tennessee and somehow I never heard of this before.

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    I'm curious what percentage of people think Redskin is a slur separate from whether or not the team's name should be changed.

    I think a lot of people are so used to the Redskin name they don't even think of it as a slur because they see it simply as a descriptor of Native Americans or of its heritage and never thought of it as an insult.
    I understand the Washington Redskins have dropped Washington from their name because it is embarrassing. (Humor, or or or.)
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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buttloadofun View Post
    ya know,,im looking at a common can of "redskin" peanuts...

    their called redskins because they have red skin...
    now, our natives are not peanuts, but they have whats often been described as "red" skin...

    whites, white skin...blacks, black skin,,
    ,hispanics, brown skin,
    aisan, yellow etc.

    and then you have the pickup games played all over the country every day that self identify as the "shirts" and "skins"....

    its a complicated world we live in...



    Actually Hispanics can be any race and have any skin color.

    Hispanic is an ethnonym that denotes a relationship to Spain, or in some definitions to ancient Roman Hispania.

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    well yes, all blacks are not black, nor whites white, nor asian yellow...its just what used to be common distictions with no ill-will intended...in fact, back in the time of slavery, common folk, used the "n" word as just the way to distinguish between races...it did not start as the pejoritive it has become,,,look at twains huckelberry finn...young huck joins up with a runaway slave and they become fast friends, willing to put each other out of harms way even if it ment possibly exposing themselves to danger....huck didnt call jim,,just jim,,,it was "n"jim, and was a form of endearment from huck to jim,,because it [n-word] was not at the time meant to disparage, but to identify, and jim knew huck was his friend,,and friends dont call each other terrible names...

    the fight to remove, limit, condem the word started after the slaves were freed..and all traces of their past bondage was fiercely resented...they were free, and wanted no leftover slave term applied to them..of course, like always,,the more something is made forbidden, the more the real racists saw that the word was "disparaging" to their former slaves,,the more they used it to intimadate, and harrass...

    haters gotta hate...

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    And then there were the Atlanta Crackers, a minor league team in Atlanta, GA which had ties at one time or another with major league teams of the cities of St. Louis, Boston/Milwaukee, Minnesota and Los Angeles.

    Atlanta Crackers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Origin of the team's name


    According to Tim Darnell, who wrote The Crackers: Early Days of Atlanta Baseball, the origins of the team name is unknown.[5]

    Darnell cites several possibilities as to why this name was chosen:

    A term that means a poor, white southerner.
    Someone who is quick and efficient at a task.
    In reference to plowboys who cracked the whip over animals.
    A shortened version of "Atlanta Firecrackers", the earlier 1892 minor league team.

    However, this list does not represent the most likely origins of the name. The term "cracker" is derived from the Gaelic "craic", meaning entertaining conversation or boasting.[6] It was used in the 18th century to denote Irish and Scottish colonists of the Deep South backcountry. The Earl of Dartmouth had this to say in a 1766 correspondence: "I should explain to your Lordship what is meant by Crackers; a name they have got from being great boasters; they are a lawless set of rascalls on the frontiers of Virginia, Maryland, the Carolinas, and Georgia, who often change their places of abode."[6]

    During the period of Reconstruction following the American Civil War, there was also a political party of the same name. Organized in Augusta, Georgia, this party's platform was one of "opposition to Catholics and segregation of blacks." [7]

    While now sometimes used as a derogatory term for a white southerner that promotes racism, it is also used as a term of pride by white southerners to indicate one that is descended from those original settlers of the area.[6] It is much more likely that the Atlanta Crackers derived their name from the more positive usage, indicating they were proud to be Georgians.
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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Perhaps Washington should keep the logo and change their name to the Washington Savages. It would be accurate and non-insulting.

    Or perhaps they could change their name to the 'Nickel heads" so that way they could at least still keep the logo. lol


    Nickel Heads sounds a lot like knuckle heads...which would be a good name, too.

    ****

    To the OP...

    Imo, if the Indians are offended by it...then it's a slur. This is about protecting the rights of the minority from the abuse and oppression of the majority which is why public voting and polling on protected rights is kind of irrelevant.

    A company making profit from racial discrimination is not a protected right.
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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buttloadofun View Post
    well yes, all blacks are not black, nor whites white, nor asian yellow...its just what used to be common distictions with no ill-will intended...in fact, back in the time of slavery, common folk, used the "n" word as just the way to distinguish between races...it did not start as the pejoritive it has become,,,look at twains huckelberry finn...young huck joins up with a runaway slave and they become fast friends, willing to put each other out of harms way even if it ment possibly exposing themselves to danger....huck didnt call jim,,just jim,,,it was "n"jim, and was a form of endearment from huck to jim,,because it [n-word] was not at the time meant to disparage, but to identify, and jim knew huck was his friend,,and friends dont call each other terrible names...

    the fight to remove, limit, condem the word started after the slaves were freed..and all traces of their past bondage was fiercely resented...they were free, and wanted no leftover slave term applied to them..of course, like always,,the more something is made forbidden, the more the real racists saw that the word was "disparaging" to their former slaves,,the more they used it to intimadate, and harrass...

    haters gotta hate...
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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    Anybody else ever wonder why The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn and The Adventures of Tom Sawyer continue to be accepted as a renown works of American literature in our society while the Walt Disney Academy Award winning movie Song of the South has all but been banned from ever being seen again. The movie not nearly as "racist" as those books. TOTAL BULL ****.

    http://http://www.songofthesouth.net/index.php
    The movie is not banned. Disney has just not bothered to release it.

    Sorry for stepping on your poutrage.
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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    The movie is not banned. Disney has just not bothered to release it.

    Sorry for stepping on your poutrage.
    You didn't pal. It's been banned for not so obvious reasons BY DISNEY CORP. Not so sorry to step on your smart-ass comment. You don't hold back a sure money maker that long for any other reason.
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