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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    If a group does find the term "redskins" offensive, why don't they, instead of spending money on lawyers, spend money rebranding the word to mean something positive? I'm pretty sure the Redskins organization would be willing to provide funding for such an endeavor.

    Oh, wait, that would involve working together to find a win-win solution.

    How long do you think a comedian will have to wait before it is safe for them to joke that the "redskins" are just looking for another way to fight the white man? Or, also historically relevant, how the "redskins" are just looking for another way to fight other "redskins?"
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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    I find politicians offensive. Can we ban them?
    I find Harry Reid extremely offensive and I'll bet I can get 4 people to agree with me. Who do I need to talk to to get him banned?

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    You were making the argument that the poll couldn't be trusted because it was only 800 out of 6 million. It was obvious that you don't know anything about how polls are conducted so I helped bring you up to speed.

    Let's leave healthcare out of it since that had thrown you off. Here you go:

    You do know that when Gallup/Annenberg/Rasmussen/Wapo etc. etc. conduct a poll, they only poll a small sample and then apply social science to the data to determine the larger results, as they are unable to poll every single person who may or may not be impacted by or have an answer to the poll question/questions.
    And you do know why psychology is not accepted by many in the fields of medicine and biology as a natural science?

    Because sampling opinions out of human resources is so unpredictably subject to change that studies are inconclusive.

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneWanderer View Post
    If a group does find the term "redskins" offensive, why don't they, instead of spending money on lawyers, spend money rebranding the word to mean something positive? I'm pretty sure the Redskins organization would be willing to provide funding for such an endeavor.

    Oh, wait, that would involve working together to find a win-win solution.

    How long do you think a comedian will have to wait before it is safe for them to joke that the "redskins" are just looking for another way to fight the white man?
    A win win is never on the agenda when political correctness can be arbitrated by a panel of judges.

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Because sampling opinions out of human resources is so unpredictably subject to change that studies are inconclusive.
    We will all take note that you will never, ever, use a poll to support any of your positions. Thanks.
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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    And you do know why psychology is not accepted by many in the fields of medicine and biology as a natural science?

    Because sampling opinions out of human resources is so unpredictably subject to change that studies are inconclusive.
    So no poll is good enough. Got it.

    I guess we'll never know how many Native Americans objected to the name then, since only 5 brought suit, and it doesn't sound like you're personally ready to ask them all. Nothing to debate here then.

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Oops, sorry. I barely even look to the left to see who posted when I respond…. please forgive me.



    Either you understand how polling works, or you do not. It appears you merely want to ignore it.
    No. I see it as inconclusive and a waste of time.
    Teachers unions 'represent' 'all' teachers as well, right? Yet they continually use dues for political things that not all of their members support… So just pointing out that even an organization does not always reflect the beliefs of all the people it represents.
    So the various tribal councils of the native American peoples are nothing but "unions" to you? And you view them not as the representatives of a people but as subject through your political lense of categorising the world?

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Nothing to forgive. I don't consider being called "he" a slur.
    Considering the average 'he', it probably should be.
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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    We will all take note that you will never, ever, use a poll to support any of your positions. Thanks.
    Certainly not to support an argument.

    Possibly to show potential movement.

    Example: Polls in how a election is expected to tun out for a candidate.

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    re: Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So no poll is good enough. Got it.
    No.

    Polls can be used for various things, but not as 100% conclusive evidence.

    They show notions which would have to be further researched by widening the source pool and efforts of research.

    I guess we'll never know how many Native Americans objected to the name then, since only 5 brought suit, and it doesn't sound like you're personally ready to ask them all. Nothing to debate here then.
    Yes you could.

    By asking all 6 000 000.

    Or putting trust into their representatives believing that they o their best in honestly representing their peoples concerns.

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