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Is Redskin a slur? [W:282]

Is Redskin a slur?

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It's an assault on the 1st amendment.

Why do dumbocrats always attack our civil rights?
 
Depends on whether the person using the term uses it as one.


It is absolutely not a slur when used as the name of a sports team.
 
AJ 2448 said:
So, you'd be alright with a team called the N******?
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If it's not intended as a slur, sure.

Trouble with that word is that it has acquired so much in the way of assumed negativity that you cannot use it in any form of media without nearly everyone who sees/hears it assuming you meant it negatively.


Edit: Far too many words have that assumed negativity these days.
 
jamesrage said:
It has nothing to do with being a bad ass. Actual men to do not go "oh thats racist" because a tiny minority of a minority suddenly decided that a work or sports team name is racist.
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Actual men? What are you? An asshole behind a keyboard with a big mouth. Why don't you go to a reservation and start tossing "redskin" around and see what actual men will do to you. It was always a slur, the team name should never have been Redskin and now that people have finally started to come to this realization it is time to change it.
 
Verax said:
Actual men? What are you? An asshole behind a keyboard with a big mouth. Why don't you go to a reservation and start tossing "redskin" around and see what actual men will do to you. It was always a slur, the team name should never have been Redskin and now that people have finally started to come to this realization it is time to change it.
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It can be used as a slur.

But words can never inherently be bad - only the intent behind them.
 
Moderator's Warning:
To anyone else who decides to post in this thread, I will advise you to tread lightly. Personal attacks, slurs and other commentary that is not civil will be dealt with.
 
Verax said:
Actual men? What are you? An asshole behind a keyboard with a big mouth. Why don't you go to a reservation and start tossing "redskin" around and see what actual men will do to you. It was always a slur, the team name should never have been Redskin and now that people have finally started to come to this realization it is time to change it.
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Have you ever lived on the rez Verax ?

I didn't think so.

If you're on the rez and start throwing around "redskin" those "real men" will start throwing around "yellow eyes." Will you hold them to the same Marxist Political Correctness rules ?

Exactly when did the term "redskin" become a slur ?
When some Groucho Marxist decided that it was a slur, not American Indians.

Marxist Culturalism aka Political Correctness is the use of culture as a sharp weapon to enforce new norms and to stigmatize those who dissent from the new dispensation; to stigmatize those who insist on values that will impede the new "PC" regime: free speech and free and objective intellectual inquiry.
 
APACHERAT said:
Marxist Culturalism aka Political Correctness is the use of culture as a sharp weapon to enforce new norms and to stigmatize those who dissent from the new dispensation; to stigmatize those who insist on values that will impede the new "PC" regime: free speech and free and objective intellectual inquiry.
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What "free and objective intellectual inquiry" is denied via PC?
 
Bodhisattva said:
...and a world where the franchise should be legally allowed to use the term?
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Yes it is legal.

The thread is not about whether the term is legal. The thread is about whether it is a slur.

I have answered. It is not intended as one. But some with a history of being the target of bigots may have a different point of view.

Funny that you have your panties in a wad over my answer.
 
year2late said:
Yes it is legal.

The thread is not about whether the term is legal. The thread is about whether it is a slur.

I have answered. It is not intended as one. But some with a history of being the target of bigots may have a different point of view.

Funny that you have your panties in a wad over my answer.
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Just after the mods warning I am not sure accusing me like you are is a wise thing to do... that said, I liked your post so I have ZERO idea why you would think I didn't. Check it again, I even clicked the "like" button. :lol:
 
The Mark said:
It can be used as a slur.

But words can never inherently be bad - only the intent behind them.
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Exactly my point.

I do not think that the name was intended as a slur. But some American Indians who have been at the receiving end of bigotry/slurs may have a vastly different point of view.
 
ecofarm said:
That doesn't answer my question. What "free and objective intellectual inquiry" is suppressed by PC?
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When was the last time you sat in on an university class room ?

What our PC universities turnout today are intellectual imbeciles.

Some white beard scratching liberal professor tells you that "redskin" is a slur and you challenge the Groucho Marxist, guess what happens ?
 
APACHERAT said:
When was the last time you sat in on an university class room ?

What our PC universities turnout today are intellectual imbeciles.

Some white beard scratching liberal professor tells you that "redskin" is a slur and you challenge the Groucho Marxist, guess what happens ?
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I'll ask you again.

What "free and objective intellectual inquiry" is being suppressed by PC, specifically.

If you can't name anything specific, how can you make the claim?
 
ecofarm said:
I'll ask you again.

What "free and objective intellectual inquiry" is being suppressed by PC, specifically.

If you can't name anything specific, how can you make the claim?
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I cannot be sure, since I have not done any research on the matter, but I would suggest that if a politically incorrect term is either the topic of discussion or used while discussing something, negative reactions to it might have a suppressive (sp?) effect
 
APACHERAT said:
When was the last time you sat in on an university class room ?

What our PC universities turnout today are intellectual imbeciles.

Some white beard scratching liberal professor tells you that "redskin" is a slur and you challenge the Groucho Marxist, guess what happens ?
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One of the last classes I took while getting my Masters was a class in sociology on the topic of Whiteness Studies. I lasted about ten minutes after I challenged the professor that white people are not racist simply because we are white and raised in a white dominated society and then I was laid into by two black women who started shouting at me. :lol:
 
The Mark said:
I cannot be sure, since I have not done any research on the matter, but I would suggest that if a politically incorrect term is either the topic of discussion or used while discussing something, negative reactions to it might have a suppressive (sp?) effect
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If it were not permitted to discuss whether a term is PC or not, how does PC exist?
 
ecofarm said:
If it were not permitted to discuss whether a term is PC or not, how does PC exist?
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Obviously some discussion took place BEFORE it became un-PC to use the term. I was speaking of a scenario after a given term has become un-PC.
 
The Mark said:
Obviously some discussion took place BEFORE it became un-PC to use the term. I was speaking of a scenario after a given term has become un-PC.
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Discussion is still open.
 
APACHERAT said:
When was the last time you sat in on an university class room ?

What our PC universities turnout today are intellectual imbeciles.

Some white beard scratching liberal professor tells you that "redskin" is a slur and you challenge the Groucho Marxist, guess what happens ?
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I do not give a hoot what the professor says. The only opinion important to me is the group that the verbage pertains to.
 
The Mark said:
Yet discussion may be suppressed (not eliminated) by the backlash of using some words.
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Not all all. Just as the use of the word 'nigger' is fine in the discussion of the term, any term is open for discussion.
 
ecofarm said:
Not all all. Just as the use of the word 'nigger' is fine in the discussion of the term, any term is open for discussion.
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Among reasonable persons, yes.

But enter an unreasonable person, and problems may arise.
 
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