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America is or is not a Christian Nation.

Is America a Christian Nation?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 25.7%
  • No

    Votes: 75 74.3%

  • Total voters
    101
The facts say so. There is a difference between the laws of man and the laws of God. That was done purposefully.

What facts? last time I checked the bible said no gays. Last time I checked homosexuality was legal in all states and same sex marriage is legal, in what, 20 of them now?
 
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Halloween isn't a christian holiday. Lol. What? Where you trying to sneak those in?

Yes it is. It's All Hallow's Eve, the Eve of the Western Christian Feast Day of All Hallows (All Saints) day. It's been observed by Christians for many many centuries.
 
No I'm denying your superficial qualification for a nation. At one point this nation could accurately be called Christian, it no longer is though.
I believe culture, practices, and the actual character that can be seen throughout the country is what defines the nation.

The US is a melting pot of everything. However as culture and scripture is concerned we are far removed from biblical standards. So to say with a straight face that America - with it's liberal society regarding so many things that the bible condemns, is a Christian nation is so incredibly strange to me. I don't believe that simply pointing at the majority and their claimed belief, i say claimed because many Christians are just christian in title, can accurately define a nation. It's too narrow in it's scope.

Western culture, throughout most of its history, has been nearly equivalent to Christian culture, and many of the population of the Western hemisphere could broadly be described as cultural Christians.

Christianity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Our laws are based off of Christian morality too... put it all together. Just because it is not AS Christian as before does not negate the Christianity that permeates our culture and nation. And most of the things in the Bible that condemn things like homosexuality are Old Testament. Christianity is based off of forgiveness and acceptance.
 
I will go as far as to say, one of the reasons this country is so ****ed up is because of its christian influence and the extremes that this influence takes us.

i dont see it fully that way.......i would say its ****ed up , because "PEOPLE CANNOT MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS"...they wish to use the power of government on other people because they just don't like what other people are doing.
 
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thanksgiving......... was a day of giving thanks to GOD

Correct. Thanksgiving was observed starting back in the days of Henry VIII as a day of giving thanks to God (after a day of fasting). The English brought it to this country in the 1600s.
 
What facts? last time I checked the bible said no gays. Last time I checked homosexuality was legal in all states and same sex marriage is legal, in what, 20 of them now?

...and that is Old Testament and does not represent "Christianity"... but the religious right of most religions.
 
Ok fine, but Halloween no. And Christmas has a dubious past as well - mixed with the pagan holiday yule.

i dont know if anyone ever said Halloween is....Christmas came into america about the mid 1800's with cards people exchanged and it went from there.
 
Ok fine, but Halloween no. And Christmas has a dubious past as well - mixed with the pagan holiday yule.

LOL. I really hope before your life is over that you find something you like.

This 'discussion' is nothing more than a way for you to spew your venom.

CIAO
 
Western culture, throughout most of its history, has been nearly equivalent to Christian culture, and many of the population of the Western hemisphere could broadly be described as cultural Christians.

Christianity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Our laws are based off of Christian morality too... put it all together. Just because it is not AS Christian as before does not negate the Christianity that permeates our culture and nation. And most of the things in the Bible that condemn things like homosexuality are Old Testament. Christianity is based off of forgiveness and acceptance.

What laws are based on christian morality?
 
Ok fine, but Halloween no. And Christmas has a dubious past as well - mixed with the pagan holiday yule.

All Hallows' Eve

All Hallows' Eve falls on 31st October each year, and is the day before All Hallows' Day, also known as All Saints' Day in the Christian calendar.


BBC - Religions - Christianity: All Hallows' Eve

Evidence is hammering you and you just continue to sit back and say... "naw... I don't think so." :lol:
 
What facts?

The facts I've provided, the misinformation I caught you spewing, the claims you cannot support all have led you to a failure.

last time I checked the bible said no gays. Last time I checked homosexuality was legal in all states and same sex marriage is legal, in what, 20 of them now?
And? See how this works is you need to make a statement provide context and then try to make a point. What you seem to be saying is because 20 states have legalized homosexual marriage, that somehow proves something. Tell me, what do you think that proves?
 
i dont see it fully that way.......i would say its ****ed up , because "PEOPLE CANNOT MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS"...they wish to use the power of government or other people because they just don't like what other people are doing.

how about the evangelical churches influence in politics. the lobbyist influence is surprisingly strong.
 
The facts I've provided, the misinformation I caught you spewing, the claims you cannot support all have led you to a failure.


And? See how this works is you need to make a statement provide context and then try to make a point. What you seem to be saying is because 20 states have legalized homosexual marriage, that somehow proves something. Tell me, what do you think that proves?

I'm saying that the culture here is no where near the teaching of christ. Therefore this nation is not christian. simple.
 
What laws are based on christian morality?

constitutional laws...none...not meant to, only setup the government and creates federalism.

federal law, who knows, volumes and volumes of federal., since our beginning
 
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All Hallows' Eve

All Hallows' Eve falls on 31st October each year, and is the day before All Hallows' Day, also known as All Saints' Day in the Christian calendar.


BBC - Religions - Christianity: All Hallows' Eve

Evidence is hammering you and you just continue to sit back and say... "naw... I don't think so." :lol:

I was wrong about the holidays, however so far I've seen nothing but you opinion on why you think this nation is Christian, nothing factual or demonstrable. Especially since our culture contradicts it's teachings in many ways as do our laws.
 
I'm saying that the culture here is no where near the teaching of christ. Therefore this nation is not christian. simple.

Who are you to judge what is within or not the teachings of Christ? Because some individuals are not Christians or act in ways that sometimes do not coincide with the Bible does not invalidate the US is a Christian nation and a majority self identify as a Christian. What you judge them to be is your opinion. You base that opinion on nothing substantial so far, though I'm hoping you surprise me.
 
What laws are based on christian morality?

So I post the post above... others about marriage, funerals and cemetery's. About the holidays. About the Old Testament and Jesus's Christianity based off of forgiveness and acceptance. About the Protestant Work Ethic and whatever else I evidenced that shows that Christianity permeates American culture and you want to nit pick about laws...? One thing? I am not going to get to into it as you just deny everything other than to say that Christianity sets out a certain morality and that our laws have a historic parallel between the Church's teachings and laws that were adopted into Common Law and eventually into the Constitution (the USA also has Common Law). The fact that other religions parallel many of these morality's and laws is irrelevant to the fact that they are Christian morals and laws in the United States.
 
As a kid growing up in the 1950’s there was no doubt the U.S. was a Christian nation. You would have to look long and hard to find someone who would state that it wasn’t, if you could find someone. We were taught in school that the founding father prayed and asked god for guidance. The ten commandants were on the door of the courthouse and the manger scene and more was on the city hall lawn come Christmas time. We even said the pledge of allegiance and had a prayer before class while I was in elementary school.

The debate on whether the United States is a Christian nation or not is a recent phenomenon. In a recent Gallup poll 77% of Americans said they were Christian.

In U.S., 77% Identify as Christian

I think with that many Christians in the U.S., that in itself should be enough to convince anyone the U.S. is a Christian nation. In my travels around the world, every country I have been to consider the U.S. a Christian nation. I would assume if you ask those from any other country the question, is the U.S. a Christian Nation and the response would be a resounding yes.

So the debate whether we are or aren’t a Christian Nation is among only a few here, inside this country. That debate has been long settled all over the world.
 
I'm saying that the culture here is no where near the teaching of christ. Therefore this nation is not christian. simple.

Ockham, mbig and I keep providing evidence and you keep countering with your opinion...
 
Because the mainstream culture, majority, is far removed from christain teachings.

Based on what ... What qualifications and authority do you have to base that opinion? All fall short of the grace of God. All sin (original sin). Qualify "far removed". When you cannot, and you base your statement on nothing but opinion I don't think there's much else for me to discuss with you. You're making a judgement based on your opinion, without qualification, using subjective terms like "far removed". After I've already shown you making things up in this thread, I don't think your claim or judgement carry much credibility. Sorry.
 
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