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Thread: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    The uganda "kill the gays" bill - "A special motion to introduce the legislation was passed a month after a two-day conference was held in which three American Christians asserted that homosexuality is a direct threat to the cohesion of African families."

    Uganda Anti-Homosexuality Act, 2014 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Scott Lively - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    former director of the American Family Assocation personally went to uganda and pushed for this law. He is being tried in federal court in US for a decade of trying to have gays in uganda killed.

    Don Schmierer - exodus international

    and Caleb Brundidge

    there were "thousands of ugandans in attendance"

    some do argue that the bible says to "put to death" homosexuals but here you won't go so far, so you brush aside it's in the OT, while using OT verses to back your other points
    You missed the part where killing gays is commanded in Christianity (the New Testament). It's not, so your whole vein of reasoning is just more hubris.
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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    You missed the part where killing gays is commanded in Christianity (the New Testament). It's not, so your whole vein of reasoning is just more hubris.
    It is commanded in at least one place in the Bible. Just because you believe that particular verse no longer applies, doesn't mean that other Christians believe the same way.

    And don't even start the whole "they're not really Christians if they believe it currently applies" because that is a "No True Scotsman" logical fallacy. The only thing that it takes for a person to be considered Christian is that they believe in Jesus as the son of God or the way to reach God. That's it.
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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It is commanded in at least one place in the Bible. Just because you believe that particular verse no longer applies, doesn't mean that other Christians believe the same way.

    And don't even start the whole "they're not really Christians if they believe it currently applies" because that is a "No True Scotsman" logical fallacy. The only thing that it takes for a person to be considered Christian is that they believe in Jesus as the son of God or the way to reach God. That's it.
    Nonsense.

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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Nonsense.

    "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death." - Revelation 21:8
    Consensual sex is not immoral. The OT's ban on homosexuality is a ceremonial law and not a moral one, Christians are not bound by ceremonial law.

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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    He is being tried in federal court in US for a decade of trying to have gays in uganda killed.
    That is completely outside of federal jurisdiction. If he is not doing something against the US itself or claiming to be working on behalf of the government of the US, anything one does outside of the US is outside the US jurisdiction. The government might say otherwise, but then we are used to them taking powers that aren't theirs.
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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Nonsense.

    "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death." - Revelation 21:8
    Nothing in that contradicts anything I posted.
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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Consensual sex is not immoral. The OT's ban on homosexuality is a ceremonial law and not a moral one, Christians are not bound by ceremonial law.
    So, consensual adultery is not a sin either?

    I also don't buy the "ceremonial" argument. Gay sex is a sin.
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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    So, consensual adultery is not a sin either?
    As long as every involved, including spouses, consents, then what's the problem?

    I also don't buy the "ceremonial" argument. Gay sex is a sin.
    Nah. It's ceremonial.

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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    You missed the part where killing gays is commanded in Christianity (the New Testament). It's not, so your whole vein of reasoning is just more hubris.
    dude you just freaking quoted Leviticus from the OT in your reply to another poster. Make up your damn mind

    "they shall be put to death" - right in your post

    besides, these revolting missionaries were employed by Christian groups like American Family Association so take it up with them

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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And prior to the United States there was also no large scale constitution based representative republic that protected religious freedom. The fact it has happened in the past doesn't suggest it must happen in the future nor that it's a requirement.

    The percentage of Christians in the country was even larger in the first century of this countries existance, and even then it did not become a theocracy, because the predominant religion of society was seperate to the ruling body. Nothing says that a religious nation within a particular state MUST become a Nation-State by taking over the government. It's entirely possible for that to NOT happen, as evidenced by the earleist days of our country.
    Well that's what i say about the south. They violate the constitution blatantly and using religion to justify it - marriage discrimination laws, sex laws, so on - then years later the federal court system steps in. And try getting elected if you aren't an avowed "5000 year earth" believer. They are a theocracy by intention and often in all but name.

    Other eras were more fundamentally Christian, sure, like 1950s even birth control was highly stigmatized and you wouldn't want to have a kid out of wedlock in late 1800s. Their laws frequently reflected that too, regardless what the constitution mandates.

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