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Thread: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I must have talked about this with another already... it is all opinion, that is kinda the point. There is no fact one way or another. No nation is 100% anything anymore.
    Okay, just in post 339 you did it was a fact.
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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    No nation is 100% anything anymore.
    Was any ever?

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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Show me a 'Christian missionary who teaches that it's ok to kill homosexuals? What's his name and background? Because that's not taught in the New Testament I read.
    The uganda "kill the gays" bill - "A special motion to introduce the legislation was passed a month after a two-day conference was held in which three American Christians asserted that homosexuality is a direct threat to the cohesion of African families."

    Uganda Anti-Homosexuality Act, 2014 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Scott Lively - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    former director of the American Family Assocation personally went to uganda and pushed for this law. He is being tried in federal court in US for a decade of trying to have gays in uganda killed.

    Don Schmierer - exodus international

    and Caleb Brundidge

    there were "thousands of ugandans in attendance"

    some do argue that the bible says to "put to death" homosexuals but here you won't go so far, so you brush aside it's in the OT, while using OT verses to back your other points

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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Had you bothered to watch the video you would have known the answer to that question.

    Here, try again.

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    doesn't matter anyway. There have been similar claims by "near death experience" cases, who i could just as easily mock as 'resurrection', if you're going to use them as evidence.

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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And yes...while the presence of a theocracy could strengthen the argument for a "Christian Nation", a theocracy isn't required for a "Christian Nation" to exist.
    Only reason i think that might be the threshold to qualify is historically this is what happens when any culture becomes overwhelmingly of one religion: ruthless oppression of the minority. Christians themselves experienced that in ancient rome for instance, and in parts of the world today.

    While 70% in US may be Christian, outside certain locales, a huge number of those don't take it very seriously. A theocracy like in middle east, every justification for every law and cultural norm is made by "the koran disapproves/doesn't disapprove." I would therefore certainly call them "Islamic nations."

    That's just how i define a country or smaller area (like the "bible belt" - where it seems like only the federal courts step in now and then to prevent theocracy) as "Christian/Muslim/etc." Others can disagree.

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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Was any ever?
    That is the point that affirms I am correct.

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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    With the definition of the term "nation" and some common sense.

    ... this debate is getting tiresome to be honest. Why some of you want to argue against this is beyond me.
    Please Bodi....link me to what "definition" you're using

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    Ah, I see you posted it later. Disregard

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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    My definition is valid because it is a valid term. I have laid it out fairly clearly. A nation is the people that comprise it. It has to be a majority but not a simple majority. It has to be representative.
    First...your "definition" is a subjective opinion of what the word means, not an actual definition. The first hole in the notion that it's "FACT" that the United States is a "Christian Nation".

    Second...your measures for the "definition" are purefly subjective in notion in terms of your decision to say it needs to be a "majority" of the people comprising the area rather than a simple majority. Again, you can't claim something is "FACT" when it's based on your OPINION. The best you can say is it's a "fact" that it's a Christian Nation under YOUR arbitrary, subjective definition.

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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I must have talked about this with another already... it is all opinion, that is kinda the point. There is no fact one way or another. No nation is 100% anything anymore.
    If you acknowledge it's all opinion then why were you claiming it's "Fact"?

    Lets see...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    it is all opinion, that is kinda the point. There is no fact one way or another
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    We are a Christian Nation. Just a fact.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    ... and it is not a fact because I say it is a fact... but it is a fact none the less.
    Once more...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    it is all opinion...There is no fact
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    Just a fact.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    but it is a fact
    That's right folks...it's all opinion and not a fact, unless Bodhi wants to "smack" you with declarations that it's a Christian Nation in which case it absolutely is a fact. Bodhi, since you've done such a good job of populating my post up till now I think I'll go ahead and end with words of wisdom from you.

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    You are continuing to fail. You are being set up to self-smack and doing a brilliant job at it too...

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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Only reason i think that might be the threshold to qualify is historically this is what happens when any culture becomes overwhelmingly of one religion: ruthless oppression of the minority
    And prior to the United States there was also no large scale constitution based representative republic that protected religious freedom. The fact it has happened in the past doesn't suggest it must happen in the future nor that it's a requirement.

    The percentage of Christians in the country was even larger in the first century of this countries existance, and even then it did not become a theocracy, because the predominant religion of society was seperate to the ruling body. Nothing says that a religious nation within a particular state MUST become a Nation-State by taking over the government. It's entirely possible for that to NOT happen, as evidenced by the earleist days of our country.

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