View Poll Results: Is America a Christian Nation?

Voters
110. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes

    28 25.45%
  • No

    82 74.55%
Page 21 of 55 FirstFirst ... 11192021222331 ... LastLast
Results 201 to 210 of 548

Thread: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

  1. #201
    global liberation

    ecofarm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Miami
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:24 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    66,325

    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    why do you assume that an agnostic has to make some sort of
    ambivalent affiliation with an already existing diety?
    Without such, the concept is hardly meaningful. You have a new deity in mind?

  2. #202
    Guru
    Zinthaniel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    Last Seen
    09-19-17 @ 10:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    2,705

    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Without such, the concept is hardly meaningful. You have a new deity in mind?
    A deity/deities is a supernatural being that somehow created the universe. That is the basic description.

    And agnostic is unsure such a creature/thing exists. They do not flat out deny it nor do they champion the notion and many believe it is impossible to ascertain any sort of information about such a thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

  3. #203
    Maquis Admiral
    maquiscat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:57 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    7,947

    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    I would agree 100% with that.. along with a cap on campaign contributions and that corporations are not people, people are people.
    As long as we are also agreeing that unions are not people either, I fully agree with you.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Does an agnostic consider the possibility of Zeus and Jesus or Allah to be equal? Surely an agnostic has a deity or deities in mind when granting the possibility.
    Yes. All are equally possible, including the possibility of no deity at all. They neither believe nor disbelieve as the site says. Is there a particular image that pops to mind of a given agnostic that is influenced by this religion or that? Maybe. I've not seen a study that shows that though.
    Bi, Poly, Switch. I'm not indecisive, I'm greedy!

  4. #204
    Maquis Admiral
    maquiscat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:57 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    7,947

    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    A deity/deities is a supernatural being that somehow created the universe. That is the basic description.
    Not necessarily. Remember that both the Greek and the Roman gods were children (actually grandchildren I think) of other deities who were the ones that actually created the universe.
    Bi, Poly, Switch. I'm not indecisive, I'm greedy!

  5. #205
    Guru
    Zinthaniel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    Last Seen
    09-19-17 @ 10:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    2,705

    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Not necessarily. Remember that both the Greek and the Roman gods were children of other deities (actually grandchildren I think) who were the ones that actually created the universe.
    Right. Well you catch my drift. An Agnostic doesn't have to appeal to any currently or previously accepted god claim. There doesn't need to be an identity attached to it. It can simply be I don't know nor flat out deny that a creature that could fit the description and qualities of a deity can or does exist - I believe that such a creature is unknowable.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

  6. #206
    global liberation

    ecofarm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Miami
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:24 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    66,325

    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    So, Agnostics believe there is an equal chance of Zeus and the Abrahamic God.

    ?

    Without a concept of deity, what does believing in one or the possibility matter?


    I believe in the possibility of a concept I do not have.

    Yeah, that makes sense.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 06-20-14 at 01:17 AM.

  7. #207
    Guru
    Zinthaniel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    Last Seen
    09-19-17 @ 10:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    2,705

    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So, Agnostics believe there is an equal chance of Zeus and the Abrahamic God.

    ?

    Without a concept of deity, what does believing in one or the possibility matter?


    I believe in the possibility of a concept I do not have.

    Yeah, that makes sense.
    A deity is already a concept in of it's self. You notion that a currently existing identity needs to be attached to it is false.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

  8. #208
    global liberation

    ecofarm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Miami
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:24 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    66,325

    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    A deity is already a concept in of it's self. You notion that a currently existing identity needs to be attached to it is false.
    Without a notion the possibility is irrelevant.

  9. #209
    Guru
    Zinthaniel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    Last Seen
    09-19-17 @ 10:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    2,705

    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Without a notion the possibility is irrelevant.
    A deity is a notion.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

  10. #210
    global liberation

    ecofarm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Miami
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:24 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    66,325

    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    A deity is a notion.
    If there is no notion, no concept, of a deity, then the possibility of its existence is irrelevant.

Page 21 of 55 FirstFirst ... 11192021222331 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •