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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    And your sissy fit over me deleting posts in my rebuttals is petty. Me deleting the post does not remove your actual post, and in context of my response anyone can clearly discern what point of yours im responding too. Also the blue thing next to the user name is a direct link to their post.
    The quote function is there to quote. To quote, delete the quote and then expect people to go back to read the quote leaving this page and then having to come back is literally, and I mean ****ing literally... stupid.

    Regarding Christianity... I am done with that other than to say, I have been around the nation, seen the holidays in action, understand where moments of silence, marriages, etc. derive.... and you seem to be totally clueless. Perhaps instead of trying to deny something so obvious you could learn to be open... but for all I know you are a raging atheist with some pathetic agenda. Who knows? Who cares? One thing is obvious and that is that you are denying simple reality.
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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I don't have an answer to that. But perhaps a cliche, people have changed from worshiping god to worshiping government. Best I can do.
    ...and even worshipping the idea that there is no god and that those that arrive at the morals from God are ignorant.
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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I don't have an answer to that. But perhaps a cliche, people have changed from worshiping god to worshiping government. Best I can do.
    That won't last long if they find they have to go to church six or seven days a week to show government they worship them! Nope, not long at all! Of course, you might be excused during their days off, which are plentiful. :

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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
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    Lol how is it that I managed to debate you so far without making any assumptions about your character or your agenda?

    Ive lived in this country my whole life. You are no more an expert on it's culture or national identity than I am, and by the looks of it many disagree with you.

    Also get over the quote thing. Its a non issue.
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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Don't know, don't much care.

    Religion is for the weak and/or the ignorant and/or the desperate.

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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    That won't last long if they find they have to go to church six or seven days a week to show government they worship them! Nope, not long at all! Of course, you might be excused during their days off, which are plentiful. :
    LOL, We all or the average is we work for the government until may something to pay our taxes. That is working almost 5 months before we can earn a cent for ourselves. one might as well bow down and worship government, they have us by the balls anyway. At least me, maybe not you. Did I just say that?
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    We are a nation of mostly Christians, but we are not a Christian nation. To be the later would mean that we are a theocracy, which, thank God, we are not.
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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    We are a nation of mostly Christians, but we are not a Christian nation. To be the later would mean that we are a theocracy, which, thank God, we are not.
    Yeap. Absolutely.
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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    I think in order to answer this question one must look at the conditions under which Christianity exist and that under which America exists.

    Christianity is first and foremost a religion which values collective efforts and shuns self interest. It is one where a single person's efforts are seen within the larger context of a collective struggle. Jesus' for all his suffering only did so for the bettering of mankind (John 3:16). Moses united his people under a single banner (Acts: 7-24-25). David did the same. Even God's interactions with biblical figures are within the larger scope of bettering not only that particular person's situation but that of a group of people.

    In contrast, the American narrative is one where figures are praised when they value individualism (at least according to Libertarians) and when they shun collective struggles. In that sense, America could not be further from Christianity or even being considered a Christian nation. It doesn't place any sort of possitive value on efforts to better society unless there is something to be gained.

    So no, America is not a Christian nation. A Christian nation would make a better effort to collectively rise out of whatever problems ill society. I would say that the people who most closely embody the "Christian nation" narrative would probably be Jehova's Witnesses. They seem to value the collective self preservation structure far more than American protestants (Baptists, Methodists, Lutherans etc.). It's been my experience that when one of them is in trouble, the entire community pitches in. Whether these problems are social, economic or even personal matters little. They simply offer to help. This is in sharp contrast to what one sees from the average American protestant or even Catholic who is far more concerned with personal growth (which no doubt evolved from the good works/Sola Fides doctrine) than the bettering of their communities.
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    Re: America is or is not a Christian Nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    Also the blue thing next to the user name is a direct link to their post.
    If you are talking about the quote in post #153, then it leads to nowhere, which makes one wonder what exactly you are responding to and quoting for context.
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