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    Re: Who is the Party of freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterLiberty View Post
    #1. Sounds to me like you think libertarians= republicans. Totally not the case Libertarians believe in minimal government intervention and more freedoms for all people, you seem to equate freedom with an "economic safety net" and the inability to fail socially (Hence why you are a socialist I suppose).

    #2. Democrats want to quell free speech, your right to bear arms, they want to quell state's rights, they want everyone to be beholden to the almighty fed.
    Anyone who says Democrat or Republican is just laughable. Those are corporate parties pandering to the same status quo of increased government and wealth disparity.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Who is the Party of freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    its clear you have no idea what a libertarian is.

    libertarians for the most part are minarchist .........limited government, not.... no government.

    no force/ coercion means government cannot force you to do things just because they want to.

    force can be used on you if you violate rights of others, or endanger the public heath and safety.

    please read up, and understand what a libertarian is.
    I'm well aware of what Libertarian is, what you posted was an anarchist approach.

    a party who believes in no force or coercion on other people.
    Nothing you said qualified your statement at any level. If you can't make yourself clear, don't complain about other people misunderstanding you...
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    Re: Who is the Party of freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    I'm well aware of what Libertarian is, what you posted was an anarchist approach.



    Nothing you said qualified your statement at any level. If you can't make yourself clear, don't complain about other people misunderstanding you...
    anarchist...... wants no government.

    your denial, is sad.

    anyone who claims to know about libertarianism, knows they are for individual rights, first and foremost.

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    Re: Who is the Party of freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    anarchist...... wants no government.

    your denial, is sad.
    a party who believes in no force or coercion on other people.
    Your comment, not mine...

    I'm not denying anything, just pointing out that my response to your post was accurate - as your post was written. For the record, I agree that our gov't has far too much power and it needs to be drastically reined-in.

    A word of advice for situations like these - Step up and take responsibility for what you said. If it wasn't what you intended to say, then just come out and say that. We all make mistakes at times, but it's the mature people who take responsibility for their mistakes. So you posted something that made it sound like you're an anarchist. Clarify your comment, admit that it wasn't well worded and move on.
    Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

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    Re: Who is the Party of freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Your comment, not mine...

    I'm not denying anything, just pointing out that my response to your post was accurate - as your post was written. For the record, I agree that our gov't has far too much power and it needs to be drastically reined-in.

    A word of advice for situations like these - Step up and take responsibility for what you said. If it wasn't what you intended to say, then just come out and say that. We all make mistakes at times, but it's the mature people who take responsibility for their mistakes. So you posted something that made it sound like you're an anarchist. Clarify your comment, admit that it wasn't well worded and move on.
    I made 2 statements

    number 2 equated libertarianism with number 1.

    so you must have missed that.

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    Re: Who is the Party of freedom?

    Every party wants to restrict everybody else but themselves to some degree or another, hence the correct answer is "None of the above".
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Who is the Party of freedom?

    I voted rutabega because Libertarians are the party of Freedom. I am not Libertarian because I dont believe a country as populated as the US can operate with that much Freedom.

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    Re: Who is the Party of freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    a party who believes in no force or coercion on other people.
    Laws by their very nature force or coerce people into either doing things or not doing things. So unless you are an anarchist there is no such party.

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    Re: Who is the Party of freedom?

    Define freedom?

    Freedom to sin, freedom from government regulation, freedom to go naked where you please?
    32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
    Matt. 10:32-33

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    Re: Who is the Party of freedom?

    Only the absence of party provides freedom. There are good and bad ideas from all parties and ideologies. A good candidate is a good candidate, regardless of his/her party. As I often say, i would have voted for Huntsman over Obama, but he never had a chance... and I'm not really American.

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