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    Re: Who is the Party of freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    a party who believes in no force or coercion on other people.
    Well that leaves out the Libertarian movement, and the right and left wing. Buddists make the cut though.
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    Re: Who is the Party of freedom?

    There is no party of freedom. Each party has specific people whose freedom it is trying to enhance at the expense of others. Despite the above libertarian circle-jerk, that party's policies enhance one's freedom in direct proportion to one's economic power. It only creates freedom for the rich. Of the existing parties (there isn't really an American socialist party), Democrats are probably the ones whose platforms would enhance freedom for the greatest number of people, and most of the freedoms they aim to take away are freedoms people shouldn't really want in the first place, like the freedom to pay women less money than men, or the freedom to discriminate against someone in the workplace because they're gay, or the freedom to impose one's religious views on the healthcare system.

    One freedom that the major parties and the supposedly superior libertarians can agree on, though, is the freedom to buy the allegiances of political candidates for their own economic gain.
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    Re: Who is the Party of freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Well that leaves out the Libertarian movement, and the right and left wing. Buddists make the cut though.
    What? Are you unaware of the violence in Bhutan, Thailand, Myanmar, Sri Lanka, Japan and Tibet initiated by Buddhists in recent years? I can't stand this infatuation some Westerners seem to have with Buddhism as if it is an eternal non-violent religion.

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    Re: Who is the Party of freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by peteeu View Post
    well that leaves out the libertarian movement, and the right and left wing. Buddists make the cut though.
    well please, i wish to know, where do libertrians wish to use force/coercion on other people?

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    Re: Who is the Party of freedom?

    Democrats or Libertarians... toss up really between those two.

    I see freedom as personal freedom, but using the word freedom in the context of the OP allows for a lot of interpretation.

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    Re: Who is the Party of freedom?

    libertarian party
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    Re: Who is the Party of freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    a party who believes in no force or coercion on other people.
    So an anarchist party??? Never gonna happen because people are hard-wired to want a society where they feel safe. No force/coercion means that if the guy next to you on the bus decides that he doesn't like the color of your tie, he gets to kill you without any repercussions. It means that if your next-door neighbor takes a liking to your 8 year old son, he can simply grab him and do whatever he wants to him and if you can't stop him, there's nothing you can do about it. Is that the kind of society you want to live in???
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    Re: Who is the Party of freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    There is no party of freedom. Each party has specific people whose freedom it is trying to enhance at the expense of others. Despite the above libertarian circle-jerk, that party's policies enhance one's freedom in direct proportion to one's economic power. It only creates freedom for the rich. Of the existing parties (there isn't really an American socialist party), Democrats are probably the ones whose platforms would enhance freedom for the greatest number of people, and most of the freedoms they aim to take away are freedoms people shouldn't really want in the first place, like the freedom to pay women less money than men, or the freedom to discriminate against someone in the workplace because they're gay, or the freedom to impose one's religious views on the healthcare system.

    One freedom that the major parties and the supposedly superior libertarians can agree on, though, is the freedom to buy the allegiances of political candidates for their own economic gain.
    #1. Sounds to me like you think libertarians= republicans. Totally not the case Libertarians believe in minimal government intervention and more freedoms for all people, you seem to equate freedom with an "economic safety net" and the inability to fail socially (Hence why you are a socialist I suppose).

    #2. Democrats want to quell free speech, your right to bear arms, they want to quell state's rights, they want everyone to be beholden to the almighty fed.

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    Re: Who is the Party of freedom?

    we have a one party system the repukelicrats. there is no difference the one party system is feverishly working right now to restrict even more of our rights as we speak.

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    Re: Who is the Party of freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    So an anarchist party??? Never gonna happen because people are hard-wired to want a society where they feel safe. No force/coercion means that if the guy next to you on the bus decides that he doesn't like the color of your tie, he gets to kill you without any repercussions. It means that if your next-door neighbor takes a liking to your 8 year old son, he can simply grab him and do whatever he wants to him and if you can't stop him, there's nothing you can do about it. Is that the kind of society you want to live in???
    its clear you have no idea what a libertarian is.

    libertarians for the most part are minarchist .........limited government, not.... no government.

    no force/ coercion means government cannot force you to do things just because they want to.

    force can be used on you if you violate rights of others, or endanger the public health and safety.

    please read up, and understand what a libertarian is.
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