ocean515
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Could have serious consquences.... for both parties.
One hopes that is true.
Could have serious consquences.... for both parties.
It's obvious, not a stretch. The breadcrumbs are all lined up ... the only people buying this are blind partisans or those in denial. :shrug:The electronic copies of the emails is irrelevant. The hard copies I can understand people being upset about. But from what I have seen, at best this was an error by the IRS, to say that Obama had a hand in this or the Dems had a hand in it is a huge stretch.
I'm fine with that as long as your "edit" doesn't confuse the original meaning or alter the intent of my words_ eaceI edited your post to only address your response to me.
How about we start Lerner off with the charges of Perjury and Evidence Tampering just to let her know we mean business_That being said what crime was committed?
ie; These corrupt lowlifes will receive the usual punishment reserved for government employees which is an extended paid vacation_At best the IRS used poor judgement
The IRS is far from strapped for resources which is obvious by their very generous salaries, benefits, bonuses, and perks_and had too few resources to do a job that they were tasked to do.
"Means, Motive, and Opportunity are the three aspects of a crime that must be established before guilt can be determined"The electronic copies of the emails is irrelevant. The hard copies I can understand people being upset about. But from what I have seen, at best this was an error by the IRS, to say that Obama had a hand in this or the Dems had a hand in it is a huge stretch.
It's obvious, not a stretch. The breadcrumbs are all lined up ... the only people buying this are blind partisans or those in denial. :shrug:
Yep obvious.Obvious.
I think they're starting that this morning. Watch C-Span. I must admit, you defending "The dog ate my homework" and asking for evidence is precious. :lamoName names at the IRS, Treasury or even the Democratic Party. Show your evidence....
Yep obvious.
I think they're starting that this morning. Watch C-Span. I must admit, you defending "The dog ate my homework" and asking for evidence is precious. :lamo
If they name names then I reserve the right to change my mind. But I am not going to convict a person, persons or agency based no evidence OR the lack of evidence being the evidence. They way some are acting about this, reminds me of the far left on George Zimmerman. He was guilty, just because the mob wished it.
Here's the difference with Zimmerman... Zimmermans gun didn't mysteriously disappear, pictures of Zimmerman didn't mysteriously disappear, the phone call records and recordings that Zimmerman made to the police didn't mysteriously get erased from every known device or blamed on "computer crashes", and the autopsy reports didn't suddenly disappear. If they had, my guess is tin foil hats would still be in fashion and now your trying to convince.... I don't know who, certainly not me.... that this is all just a very coincidental and common happenstance of events where all connection to the IRS and any outside government group was erased, removed, thrown away or destroyed. AKA - 'The dog ate my homework'. :shrug:
Props for defending the politically indefensible but really - it's starting to sound like you actually believe it.
I never claimed you said anything disappeared in the Zimmerman case, I used a common action called an "analogy" to demonstrate what you are believing and applying it to the Zimmerman case.I never said that anything disappeared in the Zimmerman case, I said the far left mob wished Zimmerman guilty.
This now has gone beyond Lois Lerner and now potentially implicates others in a cover up.Lois Lerner is guilty because the far right wishes it.
Immunity is always on the table unless someone has taken it off but the purpose of this thread was specific and contrary to providing immunity which was asking has Lois Lerner cut a deal with Obama such that she would not need immunity.Just two sides of the same coin. Sad thing is had the GOP given Lerner immunity y'all might actually know if anything happened. Recall she was the first IRS official to say what happened, the GOP went after her and she clammed up.
AOL.com Article - Lawmakers: IRS lost more emails in tea party probe
AOL
By Stephen Ohlemacher
WASHINGTON (AP) --
"The Internal Revenue Service has lost more emails connected to the tea party investigation, congressional investigators said Tuesday.
The IRS said last Friday it had lost an untold number of emails when Lois Lerner's computer crashed in 2011. Lerner used to head the division that handles applications for tax-exempt status.
On Tuesday, two key lawmakers said the IRS has also lost emails from six additional IRS workers whose computers crashed. Among them was Nikole Flax, who was chief of staff to Lerner's boss, then-deputy commissioner Steven Miller."
These people don't appear to care in the least bit how obviously ridiculous their excuses are_
Has anyone ever wondered why Lois Lerner has remained so loyal to Barack Obama with such insurmountable evidence continuously building against her every time she opens her mouth? :unsure13:
Presidential Pardon?
Maybe Congress should let this play out till after Obama leaves office?!
If there was a deal on the table, she wouldn't be taking the 5th because there'd be no need to.
The Obama Presidency and the IRS scandal are very unusual cases_This now has gone beyond Lois Lerner and now potentially implicates others in a cover up.
Immunity is always on the table unless someone has taken it off but the purpose of this thread was specific and contrary to providing immunity which was asking has Lois Lerner cut a deal with Obama such that she would not need immunity.
If there was a deal on the table, she wouldn't be taking the 5th because there'd be no need to.
A person's loyalty shifts to their self when they're facing a lengthy prison sentence_lerner is loyal to the democratic establishment. her roots are from 20 years ago and the clinton administration.
For that to happen, a determined Independent Council with an effective head prosecutor is needed that can make a case and charge Lerner with a crime, while convincing her that Congressional immunity is a better deal than Obama's promise of a pardon_This. One of the reasons I am not buying a lot of what the GOP puts out on this. Give Lerner immunity and if there is something criminal it will probably come out.
If at all possible, I would be more in favor of a reduced sentence than immunity_This. One of the reasons I am not buying a lot of what the GOP puts out on this. Give Lerner immunity and if there is something criminal it will probably come out.