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Thread: Has Obama cut a deal with Lois Lerner ???

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    Re: Has Obama cut a deal with Lois Lerner ???

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I didn't say it was the ONLY conclusion, I simply stated playing "What-if" games like this are quite pointless. Nice try at deflection though, too bad it was lousy.
    Oh well, OK then. I thought I had Georgio Tsoukalous on the line here. Color me disappointed!
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    Re: Has Obama cut a deal with Lois Lerner ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Where in the world do you get your information?! They adhered to the same non-profit guidelines that Progressive groups used to apply_

    One of the reasons they knew that they were being discriminated against was the obvious delay of their applications!

    (another reason they knew they were being discriminated against was the harassment by multiple government agencies)

    Report finds IRS targeted conservative groups, delayed applications - CNN.com
    The report found that all of the applications that were sent to the Determinations Unit "experienced substantial delays in processing."

    The report's findings indicate that of the 298 cases reviewed by the IRS inspector general as potential political cases not eligible for tax exempt status: 72 contained the name "tea party," 11 contained "9/12" and 13 contained the word "patriots," according to the report. There were 202 cases that did not contain any such reference.
    Of those applications still open for review, 160 cases were open from 206 days to more than three years -- through two election cycles.


    The excerpt below confirms that while Conservative applications were delayed; their Progressive counterparts were quickly approved_

    "Although the processing of some applications with potential significant political campaign intervention was started soon after receipt, no work was completed on the majority of these applications for 13 months," it said.

    I absolutely cannot understand how you people can continue to make excuses for and even support such obvious corruption_

    Unless of course you people subscribe to the notion that "the end justifies the means"!
    Of course you omit the fact that the "applications" were not even necessary. All the groups needed to do was claim the exemption on their taxes. Do you think political action committees of any persuasion are "non-profit" organizations that qualify for tax exemption? That is the "corruption" we need to address.

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    Re: Has Obama cut a deal with Lois Lerner ???

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    This whole scandal is going nowhere, and when Obama vacates the office this will be completely dead.
    If there were criminal charges, it will not go anywhere. It depends on how much can be found out and if there was a conspiracy which I gotta say, looks very likely given the amount of obfuscation and lies being told about these emails.
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    Re: Has Obama cut a deal with Lois Lerner ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    If there were criminal charges, it will not go anywhere. It depends on how much can be found out and if there was a conspiracy which I gotta say, looks very likely given the amount of obfuscation and lies being told about these emails.
    Once Obama has his last day, this issue will fade away. The GOP isn't going to keep on this. There will be no actual gain.

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    Re: Has Obama cut a deal with Lois Lerner ???

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    Once Obama has his last day, this issue will fade away. The GOP isn't going to keep on this. There will be no actual gain.
    Gain or not, criminal charges do not go away. The question is will there be enough evidence of a conspiracy to file criminal charges. Whether or not Obama is in office or not is irrelevant.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Has Obama cut a deal with Lois Lerner ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Gain or not, criminal charges do not go away. The question is will there be enough evidence of a conspiracy to file criminal charges. Whether or not Obama is in office or not is irrelevant.
    I don't think there will be. The worst thing I believe that will come out of this is a claim of incompetency, but not criminal charges.

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    Re: Has Obama cut a deal with Lois Lerner ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    It seems to me that a sensible course would be to wait until Obama's term has ended, and a new President and a new administration is in place, and then begin an earnest investigation, with an Attorney General who isn't loyal to Obama, and with a President who isn't going to simply hand out pardons to anyone who is implicated by that investigation.

    The coverup itself is so blatant, at this point, that even if what is being covered up cannot be proven, it appears that a proper and unobstructed investigation will, at the very least, produce sufficient evidence to bring criminal charges and prison time against whomever can be proven to be complicit in the coverup itself—and this could very well include Ms. Lerner and even Mr Obama himself.
    It is indeed outrageously blatant and in your face obvious_

    In fact; it is so blatant and obvious that I believe their desperate attempt to cover-up could be used in a court of law as circumstantial evidence to convict at least Lois Lerner; who would then likely cut a deal to be a witness against her cohorts in exchange for a reduced prison sentence_

    This is an extremely serious crime and I absolutely believe it is important that Lerner go to prison, at least for a couple years_

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    There will be no investigation after Obama is gone. The GOP isn't dumb and doesn't want to start that as a precedent.
    This is without doubt a crime of political corruption which is why it absolutely demands that justice be served_

    A crime so grossly egregious that it should never be allowed to be forgotten until real justice is exacted from the guilty which is absolutely necessary to restore America's faith and trust in government_

    A message must be sent that government oppression and suppression of American Citizens will absolutely not be tolerated!

    Government must obey and enforce our laws and be accountable regardless of political affiliation!
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    Re: Has Obama cut a deal with Lois Lerner ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    If there were criminal charges, it will not go anywhere. It depends on how much can be found out and if there was a conspiracy which I gotta say, looks very likely given the amount of obfuscation and lies being told about these emails.
    That is the whole point, it will never get to criminal charges. And once Obama is gone there sure won't be any.

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    Re: Has Obama cut a deal with Lois Lerner ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    This is without doubt a crime of political corruption which is why it absolutely demands that justice be served_

    A crime so grossly egregious that it should never be allowed to be forgotten until real justice is exacted from the guilty which is absolutely necessary to restore America's faith and trust in government_

    A message must be sent that government oppression and suppression of American Citizens will absolutely not be tolerated!

    Government must obey and enforce our laws and be accountable regardless of political affiliation!
    I edited your post to only address your response to me.

    That being said what crime was committed?

    At best the IRS used poor judgement and had too few resources to do a job that they were tasked to do.

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    Re: Has Obama cut a deal with Lois Lerner ???

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    That is the whole point, it will never get to criminal charges. And once Obama is gone there sure won't be any.
    And it will never get to criminal charges because the conspiracy is covered up too well or because there is no conspiracy?
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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