View Poll Results: Should U.S. Congress & Senate have term limits?

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  • No. Let them serve as long as both they choose and as long as they can win re-election.

    12 37.50%
  • Yes. 1 term limit per office, lifetime. (2 yrs for Congress, 6 yrs for Senate).

    2 6.25%
  • Yes. 1 consecutive term limit per office (1 term at a time, even if completing an unexpired term)

    2 6.25%
  • Yes. But I believe this is how many terms should be the limit. (Please specify)

    16 50.00%
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    Re: Should Congress have term limits?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    1. the legislature appoints the senators, ...are lobbyist going to go to every state, and lobby over say 1000 people?..they could but very hard to do.
    2 by having states elect the senator .power is again divided, retuning america to a republican form of government, ..which has much less special interest, because it is more difficult to lobby, because the senate and the house interest, are different.
    1.Companies have deep pockets. Assuming that all these senators come up for appointment at the same time the lobbyists would most certainly have the money to do so.
    2.Left wingers are going to appoint other left wingers and right wingers are going to appoint other right wingers.Power is not going to be divided.

    3 the 17th amendment was pushed by the progressives of that era, because they favor democracy, and democracy is the road to socialism--Karl Marx
    I could care less who pushed it.A broken clock can right twice a day.
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    Re: Should Congress have term limits?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    1.Companies have deep pockets. Assuming that all these senators come up for appointment at the same time the lobbyists would most certainly have the money to do so.
    2.Left wingers are going to appoint other left wingers and right wingers are going to appoint other right wingers.Power is not going to be divided.


    I could care less who pushed it.A broken clock can right twice a day.
    senators are staggered, class 1,2,3 every two years elected

    senators work for the state legislators, they are concerned how states powers.

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    Re: Should Congress have term limits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tothian View Post
    How do you feel about term limits for Senate and Congress?
    I see no reason why you should limit who I want as my representative. If my representative is doing a good job for me, why should I not be able to vote for him?
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    Re: Should Congress have term limits?

    I voted yes and the term limits I'd be comfortable with are:

    2 terms in total for a Senator (12 years total)
    6 terms in total for a House member (12 years total)

    After that, they can run for State government all they want, or they can run for President but never again for Congress.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Should Congress have term limits?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    senators are staggered, class 1,2,3 every two years elected

    So that means lobbyists do not have to coerce all the senators.

    senators work for the state legislators, they are concerned how states powers.
    Only when their term is almost up.
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    Re: Should Congress have term limits?

    The idea that term limits will end or reduce corruption in congress is a myth. Corporations and the wealthy can still control elections with term limits in place; they just need to someone else to serve their interests after the limit is up. The best way to reduce corruption in our political system is to ban corporate donations and place limits on individual donations. Term limits are also undemocratic in that if a state or district's population chooses to reelect their representative, the federal government telling the populous they cannot reelect their representative is a violation of their voting rights as a whole.

    Where we do need term limits is the Supreme Court. Politicization of the court needs to end so that the court is a genuinely fair interpreter of the constitution, independent of lobbying or popular opinion. This differs from congressional term limits in that the people already have little to no say as to who is appointed to the court.

    I realize this opinion is somewhat unpopular, but the presidential term limit is just as undemocratic as potential congressional term limits. Assuming we have an electoral system with less corporate influence, the president exceeding two terms, even without term limits, is highly unlikely. Over a period of over 100 years, F.D.R. was the only president to exceed two terms when we didn't have term limits.

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    Re: Should Congress have term limits?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    senators are staggered, class 1,2,3 every two years elected

    senators work for the state legislators, they are concerned how states powers.
    to the bolded... that's how it was intended to be, but it's not how it is.

    Senators work for whatever party they belong to, no one else....and the state legislators are officially irrelevant to Senators( a lovely byproduct of the 17th amendment)

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    Re: Should Congress have term limits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tothian View Post
    How do you feel about term limits for Senate and Congress?
    In recent history, at least back to Noot Gingrich in 1990 and 1994,
    term limits have been the mantra of GOPs/TEAs/etc, since they were not in power.

    2010 was another great example--and now the GOP drum beats loud again during mid-terms for an office they don't hold .
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    Re: Should Congress have term limits?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So that means lobbyists do not have to coerce all the senators.



    Only when their term is almost up.
    what it means is lobbyist would have to visit every state, and lobby the whole state legislature.

    today all a lobbyist has to do is go to 1 centralized location and lobby 1 person... the senator,,,,,,,,making lobbying far much easier.

    a senator does the bidding of the state legislature,,he is not free to make his own decision, if he choses try to do that action, the state can ask for his resignation, and he will of coarse never be reelected by them, if he does not vote according to the state.

    example: under the ACA 26 states sued the federal government over it, if the 17th had not been in place those states legislatures would have directed their senators to vote ...no....it would have never passed.

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    Re: Should Congress have term limits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    to the bolded... that's how it was intended to be, but it's not how it is.

    Senators work for whatever party they belong to, no one else....and the state legislators are officially irrelevant to Senators( a lovely byproduct of the 17th amendment)
    the most simple way of making people understand why the 17th should be repeal is reading the federalist 62 and 63....it explains how socialism, tyranny, faction are kept in check.

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