View Poll Results: Should U.S. Congress & Senate have term limits?

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  • No. Let them serve as long as both they choose and as long as they can win re-election.

    12 37.50%
  • Yes. 1 term limit per office, lifetime. (2 yrs for Congress, 6 yrs for Senate).

    2 6.25%
  • Yes. 1 consecutive term limit per office (1 term at a time, even if completing an unexpired term)

    2 6.25%
  • Yes. But I believe this is how many terms should be the limit. (Please specify)

    16 50.00%
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    Re: Should Congress have term limits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    The term 'career politician' should not exist, thus such people should not exist. Yeah, some will say 'just vote them out', but due to gerrymandering and buying off votes, this is often next to impossible. And some will say 'but what about good politicians?' Oh well… we are a nation of 300+ million people, certainly we can come with with a couple hundred here and there that are 'good' and would follow the Constitution.

    Power corrupts. Even the most well intentioned will eventually be corrupted in DC, thus get in, do good work, get out. Otherwise we will just get more of the same two party system that only cares about itself and it's own wallets and power, and as time goes by, we will see more and more worthless 'officials' in office.
    Good point. Some people think one general idea that sounds nice in theory will always work in practice, but it wouldn't always.

    This includes me too. Like with this idea I brought up. It could end up having it's own pro's and con's too.

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    Re: Should Congress have term limits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tothian View Post
    That's very true about the Senators! Thank you for sharing that! May 13, 1912 is when the people directly elected their Senators. I forget if they had different rules for vacancies than they do now. As in, the legislature would just vote in someone else, rather than a Governor filling in a vacancy, and then having a special election.

    As for voting them out, the problem is that people don't always vote for the same person in a primary and general election. Perhaps their primary candidate didn't win. They might vote for someone once and they might even win and do a great job, but it does not always mean that they are the only person who can do that job.

    Intelligence is one thing. They can learn from other experienced former Congresspersons, former Senators, and such. But, it's the decision making that is most important. Do they vote for everything you believe in? Or is it limiting the variety of experience that can be brought there.

    If the purpose of leadership is to create more leaders, and not more followers, than the Congressperson should lead by an example that can be followed by their successor. This also includes mistakes to NOT make.
    one thing i didn't point out before, repeal the 17th...and you cripple lobbying in Washington.
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    Re: Should Congress have term limits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tothian View Post
    Too confusing. And I don't mind someone being a lobbyist after their term(s) is/are up/
    Problem is, these people always end up corrupt, and then they just stay in Washington forever, advancing some political agenda and making money off the system of bribes and extortion that our government has now become.
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    Re: Should Congress have term limits?

    If all we have to do to get rid of Lobbyists is repeal the 17th amendment, then how come peeka chaka no wookiee boonowa tweepie Solo? Ho ho hoooo.



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    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
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    Re: Should Congress have term limits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Booth View Post
    If all we have to do to get rid of Lobbyists is repeal the 17th amendment, then how come peeka chaka no wookiee boonowa tweepie Solo? Ho ho hoooo.



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    people think because they vote for someone this some how gives them power, ..however this not always correct.

    by having direct election in both parts of congress, this makes america a democracy, ...which as Madison states is full of factious combinations...ie special interest...in federalist #10

    the founders did not create a democracy, but instead a republic of divided powers, the people and the states both share power.

    since power is divided and not just in 1 set of hands, its harder for government to become corrupt, and tyrannical.......lobbying is more difficult to accomplish.

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    Re: Should Congress have term limits?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    the founders created a system, of only 2 years for each person of the house, want to remove them vote him out!

    the senate was a different matter, the senators were picked by the legislature of states, ..it has been ONLY after the 17th amendment you have long term serving senators.

    repeal the 17th to put government back in balance
    I agree, the original idea was the senate would represent the states and the house, the people. But the passage of the 17th stop the senate from representing the states as envisioned by the framers. Heck, all they do these days is represent their political party and neither the state or the people.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Should Congress have term limits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tothian View Post
    How do you feel about term limits for Senate and Congress?
    I support term limits. Two terms per office and on top of that a five year waiting period between offices regardless of those offices are appoint or elected. This means if someone who served as a senator wants to run for congressman, president or what ever then he or she has to wait at least five years before running.This ensures an elected official does not carry over an influence from any previous office and that all elected officials will have equal footing.

    This idea that we can simply vote out bad politicians is a ****en joke.Most voters are too busy watching American Idol or some other stupid **** to care what their elected officials do and are too easily manipulated by the scum in the media, this is why congress in general has a 10% approval rating and a high incumbent reelection rate.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should Congress have term limits?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    one thing i didn't point out before, repeal the 17th...and you cripple lobbying in Washington.
    1.Lobbyists would just focus their attention of those who can "appoint" senators.
    2.I would rather elected officials be beholden to the people not other elected officials.
    3.There were problems before the 17th amendment.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should Congress have term limits?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    1.Lobbyists would just focus their attention of those who can "appoint" senators.
    2.I would rather elected officials be beholden to the people not other elected officials.
    3.There were problems before the 17th amendment.
    1. the legislature appoints the senators, ...are lobbyist going to go to every state, and lobby over say 1000 people?..they could but very hard to do.

    2 by having states elect the senator .power is again divided, retuning america to a republican form of government, ..which has much less special interest, because it is more difficult to lobby, because the senate and the house interest, are different.

    3 the 17th amendment was pushed by the progressives of that era, because they favor democracy, and democracy is the road to socialism--Karl Marx

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    Re: Should Congress have term limits?

    the main thing to do is get rid of the outrageous pensions these people get, that alone would prevent permanent office holders.



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