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Thread: Open carry question [W:46]

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    re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    especially when he gets shot by the dude without being able to get to his gun--another 11 on a 10 scale from the 2A -
    if he gets shot, you can then argue his rights were violated.... but beings we are talking about a person walking into a store NOT INTENDING TO COMMIT A CRIME... you are yet again talking out of your ass.

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    re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    but you know about it so why deflect??
    that wasn't a deflection.. it was correcting you .


    How do you know he doesn't intend to commit a crime??
    because the OP said so in his first post
    Incredible that the level of discussion is now protecting rifle-carriers in open..
    yes it is incredible.. it shows just how irrational you anti-gunners have become when a law abiding person cannot even carry a rifle without you wanting to kill them

    Who is around to deal with this crime you speak of--the store owner would be dead??
    dead from who?... the OP specifically stated the person does not intent to commit a crime?....why are you making up a completely different scenario?

    Not at all--and classic for you to end with an incorrect slam .
    I stated nothing that was incorrect

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    re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    if he gets shot, you can then argue his rights were violated....
    so store owner must first before action can be taken--just wow--
    but beings we are talking about a person walking into a store NOT INTENDING TO COMMIT A CRIME...
    look who's talking out of whose--though I won't repeat your word coming next:
    you are yet again talking out of your ass.
    so when you are clearly wrong, you resort to this "gun forum" 2A talk -
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    re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    so store owner must first before action can be taken--just wow--
    yes, there must be some sort of threat to his person in order for him to start shooting the carrier.


    look who's talking out of whose--though I won't repeat your word coming next:
    i'm sorry i'm following the scenario given to us by the OP and not the one you concocted out of whole cloth in your head..... wait, no... i'm not sorry.

    so when you are clearly wrong, you resort to this "gun forum" 2A talk -
    i'm not wrong.

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    re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Holey Hannah I don't think I can take the ignorance in this thread...


    one more time...


    Ability
    Opportunity
    Intent/Jeopardy behavior

    All three of these things are required for Assault! All three are required for the subject to be Shootable! And the threat must be IMMINENT (right now)!

    AOI depends on Totality Of Circumstances! It must pass the Reasonable Man Test!

    Lawd, get educated a little if you want to discuss things like this! It's not rocket science.




    Was it legal for the guy to open carry into the store? Was the weapon held in a threatening or non-threatening manner? Was any criminal act committed otherwise? Was any threat communicated verbally or otherwise? All these things matter, and add up to why you can't just go around shooting people who MIGHT be a threat. They have to demonstrate threat behaviors in a fairly specific manner under most circumstances.

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    re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    because the OP said so in his first post
    yet you cannot guarantee this, but are willing to take ever more chances--
    yes it is incredible
    no, it is a complete disaster and bastardization of the 2A--
    it shows just how irrational you anti-gunners have become when a law abiding person cannot even carry a rifle without you wanting to kill them
    what it shows is just how far you people will go to push the envelope of your "rights" over the "rights" of others--
    oh, and good with the lame anti-gunner meme --
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    re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Holey Hannah I don't think I can take the ignorance in this thread...


    one more time...


    Ability
    Opportunity
    Intent/Jeopardy behavior

    All three of these things are required for Assault! All three are required for the subject to be Shootable! And the threat must be IMMINENT (right now)!

    AOI depends on Totality Of Circumstances! It must pass the Reasonable Man Test!

    Lawd, get educated a little if you want to discuss things like this! It's not rocket science.




    Was it legal for the guy to open carry into the store? Was the weapon held in a threatening or non-threatening manner? Was any criminal act committed otherwise? Was any threat communicated verbally or otherwise? All these things matter, and add up to why you can't just go around shooting people who MIGHT be a threat. They have to demonstrate threat behaviors in a fairly specific manner under most circumstances.

    oh that's nice, assaulting people brains with factual information... now their gonna think it's OK to shoot you too.


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    re: Open carry question [W:46]

    zero store-owners should ever be put through the "open-carrying-of-a-rifle" gun rules set down by Goshin in post #35 .
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    re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    yet you cannot guarantee this, but are willing to take ever more chances--
    whic his why you remain vigilant... and not just open fire on a guy for simply carrying.

    no, it is a complete disaster and bastardization of the 2A--
    more anal yammerings.

    what it shows is just how far you people will go to push the envelope of your "rights" over the "rights" of others--
    oh, and good with the lame anti-gunner meme --
    i'm not pushing the envelope on anything... you are sitting in here saying the store owner should blast away ( incorrectly applying SYG laws) over some nonexistent infringement of his rights.

    a person legally carrying a firearm is NOT infringing on anyone's else rights... that is a simple fact... a simple solid fact.

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    re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    oh that's nice, assaulting people brains with factual information...
    now their gonna think it's OK to shoot you too.
    all store owners should have to post these rules by Goshin, memorize them, and then live by them every-time a rifle-toter comes in his store--unblievable --
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