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    re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    If a dude walks into a store with an assault rifle with no intention to commit a crime and the store owner shoots him is that justifiable homicide?



    Like most such cases, it would depend on the totality of the circumstances. At this point, you have not given sufficiently detailed information to really judge... but generally speaking NO, it is not okay to shoot someone simply because they are in POSSESSION of a firearm, except under certain particular circumstances.

    Brandishing in a threatening manner is different.



    So, it depends. Try a more specific scenario and I will give you an honest analysis.

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    re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Bad analogy
    not validating your beliefs doesn't mean it's a bad analogy.

    actually, the analogy works just fine.

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    re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    So the owner has to wait until the dude shoots him effectively not being able to defend himself?
    no.......

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    re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    So the owner has to wait until the dude shoots him effectively not being able to defend himself?


    Nope. You have to wait until a reasonable man would construe an imminent threat.


    I've explained this on DP at least ten times.

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    Simple possession of a weapon is not USUALLY considered expression of intent.

    POINTING it would be different.

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    re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    If a dude walks into a store with an assault rifle with no intention to commit a crime and the store owner shoots him is that justifiable homicide?
    I voted wrong. One of the yes votes should be no.

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    re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    If a dude walks into a store with an assault rifle with no intention to commit a crime and the store owner shoots him is that justifiable homicide?
    No.

    Hell no.

    It is, however, highly unusual and because of that it would be perfectly reasonable for patrons to be concerned.

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    re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    How is the store owner supposed to know?
    I think it would depend entirely on how the patron carried the rifle.
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    re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    If a dude walks into a store with an assault rifle with no intention to commit a crime and the store owner shoots him is that justifiable homicide?
    Under some circumstances, "Yes," under others, "No." The mere act of carrying a weapon is not in and of itself a reasonable cause to fear great bodily harm or death.
    I may be wrong.

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    re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    If a dude walks into a store with an assault rifle with no intention to
    commit a crime and the store owner shoots him is that justifiable homicide?
    He is standing his ground and reading that "type" of body language.
    Of course he is .
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    re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Like most such cases, it would depend on the totality of the circumstances. At this point, you have not given sufficiently detailed information to really judge... but generally speaking NO, it is not okay to shoot someone simply because they are in POSSESSION of a firearm, except under certain particular circumstances.

    Brandishing in a threatening manner is different.



    So, it depends. Try a more specific scenario and I will give you an honest analysis.
    If the rifle was shouldered, it's murder. If the patron were holding it in his hands, it might not be murder.
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