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Thread: Open carry question [W:46]

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    Re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    An assault rifle is select fire from semi to full auto, or 3 round burst.

    Way to demonstrate your utter ignorance in regards to firearms.



    Only to hoplophobes, legally speaking you haven't a leg to stand on because such an action is not only non-threatening but perfectly LEGAL.
    this is factually correct, the first assault rifle the STG 44, was the first to have select fire control......

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    Re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    wrong technically

    assault rifles are select fire meaning both semi and full auto

    the FN FAL is a BATTLE RIFLE because it is a full sized rifle firing a FULL SIZED cartridge

    it is in the same class as the third generation battle rifles

    the first generation was the Mauser 98, the British SMLE, the Springfield

    second generation was the Garand, the FN 49

    third generation was the M14 (which had full auto) the FN-FAL (some had full auto) the BM-59 and the AR-10

    the BAR was not a battle rifle because it only had automatic fire. it was an automatic rifle which is one step down from a light machine gun. the bren gun was similar
    Don't most military assault weapons have a 3 round burst setting? (just a general question)
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    Re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    wrong technically

    assault rifles are select fire meaning both semi and full auto

    the FN FAL is a BATTLE RIFLE because it is a full sized rifle firing a FULL SIZED cartridge

    it is in the same class as the third generation battle rifles

    the first generation was the Mauser 98, the British SMLE, the Springfield

    second generation was the Garand, the FN 49

    third generation was the M14 (which had full auto) the FN-FAL (some had full auto) the BM-59 and the AR-10

    the BAR was not a battle rifle because it only had automatic fire. it was an automatic rifle which is one step down from a light machine gun. the bren gun was similar
    i made a correction in another post

    the FAL does have full auto capacity, which was used by the Argentinians of the Falklands war, ...but were found to be unstable in that mode, the British used the same rile, however it as semi-auto

    Fallschirmjäger used the fg42, a battle rifle with a full length cartridge, in full auto.
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    Re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I am anti-murder, but I am also a realist. If an individual has a store in a high crime area where other business owners are robbed and victims of violent crime, then its not unreasonable for them to fear for the lives if someone walks into their store openly carrying a gun. Surely you can empathize with that.
    i fully support them being prepared to defend themselves and I fully support them being vigilant ...only an idiot would ignore a person with a gun

    if they decide to shoot someone for simply carrying a firearm, then they are Murderers, plain and simple...carrying a gun is not a valid justification for homicide, if it was, we could be killing cops all day long.

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    Re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    this is factually correct, the first assault rifle the STG 44, was the first to have select fire control......
    the M2 Carbine was almost the same time of introduction. it was the US's "assault rifle" since it met all the criteria. the MI was intended to be select fire which would have made it the first but in order to get the MIs in production that was omitted. the stg 44 was deployed before the M2

    intermediate cartridge
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    Re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    there is a huge difference from the military term ASSAULT RIFLE and the bogus nonsensical term assault weapon. You cannot use a semi auto weapon to properly conduct a military assault on a fixed position of the enemy

    you see the term assault weapon was a weapon that could be fired individually at semi automatic to inflict casualties or used on full auto by a mass of infantry to "assault a position" by using said automatic fire to suppress movement or return fire by the enemy while artillery or sappers using satchel charges or flamethrowers or grenades destroy the position

    that is why its idiotic to call non military non-select fire weapons "assault weapons" because they are lacking the essential feature of a weapon useful for "assault'

    anti gun jerks figured the average sheeple wouldn't understand the military term "assault" but transpose CRIMINAL assault to those firearms and be more willing to support bans on them
    Not going to get into a semantic pissing contest with you.
    I will be glad to substitute the term "military style rifle" .
    Everyone including Ronald Reagan and Gerald Ford Knows what I mean.
    "I do not believe in taking away the right of the citizen for sporting, for hunting and so forth, or for home defense," he said. "But I do believe that an AK-47,... is not a sporting weapon or needed for defense of a home."
    To Members of the U.S. House of Representatives: We are writing to urge your support for a ban on the domestic manufacture of military-style assault weapons. This is a matter of vital importance to the public safety. Although assualt weapons account for less than 1% of the guns in circulation, they account for nearly 10% of the guns traced to crime.

    Every major law enforcement organization in America and dozens of leading labor, medical, religious, civil rights and civic groups support such a ban. Most importantly, poll after poll shows that the American public overwhelmingly support a ban on assault weapons. A 1993 CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll found that 77% of Americans support a ban on the manufacture, sale, and possession of semi-automatic assault guns, such as the AK-47.

    The 1989 import ban resulted in an impressive 40% drop in imported assault weapons traced to crime between 1989 and 1991, but the killing continues. Last year, a killer armed with two TEC9s killed eight people at a San Francisco law firm and wounded several others. During the past five years, more than 40 law enforcement officers have been killed or wounded in the line of duty by an assault weapon.

    While we recognize that assault weapon legislation will not stop all assault weapon crime, statistics prove that we can dry up the supply of these guns, making them less accessible to criminals. We urge you to listen to the American public and to the law enforcement community and support a ban on the further manufacture of these weapons.

    Sincerely,

    Gerald R. Ford

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    Re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Not going to get into a semantic pissing contest with you.
    I will be glad to substitute the term "military style rifle" .
    Everyone including Ronald Reagan and Gerald Ford Knows what I mean.
    Reagan was well known to be senile at the end of his term and Ford was hardly a conservative. and those to guys hardly had any expertise about weapons.



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    Re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i made a correction in another post

    the FAL does have full auto capacity, which was used by the Argentinians of the Falklands war, ...but were found to be unstable in that mode, the British used the same rile, however it as semi-auto
    yeah I have shot one as well as an M14 in full auto

    unless you are using a sling from a prone position, the control is rather dubious, and this is coming from a distinguished rifle shot



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    Re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    sorry no.... banishing means waving.......not shouldering it.

    as it stated, in the past soldiers banished swords.

    you cannot brandish a sword in its scabbard from your waist.
    Excellent example...So put your friggin' rifle in a case when you sling it across your back... then maybe I will not consider it "brandishing".

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    Re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Not going to get into a semantic pissing contest with you.
    I will be glad to substitute the term "military style rifle" .
    Everyone including Ronald Reagan and Gerald Ford Knows what I mean.
    what can be more constitutionally protected under the 2A than a Military style rifle?



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