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Thread: Open carry question [W:46]

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    Re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Are you seriously that dense? The store owner doesn't know. All he knows is that the guy has a gun.
    i'm not the one that created the scenario, you did..... you specifically stated the person carrying the gun does not intent to commit a crime.
    we know his intentions, you made sure of that ... you're the one who told us.

    " guy has a gun" is not a valid reason for shooting him.... read Goshins posts, he does a fine job of explaining it .

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    Re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    If i am a store owner a person walks in with a gun, my first instinct is that i am getting robbed.
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    Re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    I should have been more clear. The store owner is not a fortune teller and has no idea the guy just came in to buy some cigarettes.
    how is he carrying the firearm?

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    Re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Booth View Post
    I hate to say it, but the liberals are actually right for once. If you decide to walk around in public with an assault rifle, as far as I am concerned, you have accepted the risk that someone will see you walking towards them, assume the worst, and pull a gun on you. There's a point where your responsibility to act like a decent person to everyone else and your right to carry firearms openly collides, and that place is called out in public. Seriously. I am behind AR-15s for home defense, but there's just no intelligent reason why you should carry one around in the streets. You never know when you might run into someone who is expecting to get attacked. Say, someone in a gang, or someone in the Witness Protection Program.

    I don't oppose the law; I'm just saying, just because you can doesn't mean you should.
    if the person carrying is behaving in a threatening manner, i would expect someone to answer that force with in-kind force.

    if that person is carrying correctly and legally and is not posing a threat, the mere act of pulling a gun on him is a crime in itself.



    the open carry stunts you are seeing in the news are just that.. stunts... political stunts.... it's not only a legal way to exercise their rights, but it's a highly protected form of speech ( political speech)
    you'll notice that every person in these stunts is carrying legally, correctly, and safely..... while you might not like it , that's pretty much the way society expects everyone to act... legally, correctly, and safely.

    while i wouldn't do it, I have no problem with other people pulling these political stunts... they have that right.

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    Re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    i'm not the one that created the scenario, you did..... you specifically stated the person carrying the gun does not intent to commit a crime.
    we know his intentions, you made sure of that ... you're the one who told us.

    " guy has a gun" is not a valid reason for shooting him.... read Goshins posts, he does a fine job of explaining it .
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    Re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    if the person carrying is behaving in a threatening manner, i would expect someone to answer that force with in-kind force.

    if that person is carrying correctly and legally and is not posing a threat, the mere act of pulling a gun on him is a crime in itself.



    the open carry stunts you are seeing in the news are just that.. stunts... political stunts.... it's not only a legal way to exercise their rights, but it's a highly protected form of speech ( political speech)
    you'll notice that every person in these stunts is carrying legally, correctly, and safely..... while you might not like it , that's pretty much the way society expects everyone to act... legally, correctly, and safely.

    while i wouldn't do it, I have no problem with other people pulling these political stunts... they have that right.
    I'm not denying that. I'm just saying that it's a terrible idea, and it's an even worse idea to trust that your fellow man will always decide to wait and see when something alarming happens, and to logically work something out in their mind. I mean, for all you know, you might walk into a store owned by one of the liberals on this forum! Do you honestly expect both of you to walk out of that scenario alive? You've seen how much reason they use in their posts; there wouldn't even be a shadow of that in this situation.
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    Re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    if the person carrying is behaving in a threatening manner, i would expect someone to answer that force with in-kind force.

    if that person is carrying correctly and legally and is not posing a threat, the mere act of pulling a gun on him is a crime in itself.



    the open carry stunts you are seeing in the news are just that.. stunts... political stunts.... it's not only a legal way to exercise their rights, but it's a highly protected form of speech ( political speech)
    you'll notice that every person in these stunts is carrying legally, correctly, and safely..... while you might not like it , that's pretty much the way society expects everyone to act... legally, correctly, and safely.

    while i wouldn't do it, I have no problem with other people pulling these political stunts... they have that right.
    Now a days when you see a person with an assault rifle, you assume the worst.
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    Re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Booth View Post
    I hate to say it, but the liberals are actually right for once. If you decide to walk around in public with an assault rifle, as far as I am concerned, you have accepted the risk that someone will see you walking towards them, assume the worst, and pull a gun on you. There's a point where your responsibility to act like a decent person to everyone else and your right to carry firearms openly collides, and that place is called out in public. Seriously. I am behind AR-15s for home defense, but there's just no intelligent reason why you should carry one around in the streets. You never know when you might run into someone who is expecting to get attacked. Say, someone in a gang, or someone in the Witness Protection Program.

    I don't oppose the law; I'm just saying, just because you can doesn't mean you should.
    Let's flip the situation around and say that you are the one expecting, for good reason, to be attacked but you lack a CHL or CCW permit, and thus cannot legally carry a concealed handgun (or even an unconcealed handgun in Texas) - are you then willing to risk walking about unarmed?

    I agree that, without reason, one is unlikely to walk about carrying an assault rifle, or any firearm, in the course of normal affairs but you do acknowledge that some may possess a valid reason to expect an (armed?) attack - should they not be permitted to be ready to respond to that situation?
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    Re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Booth View Post
    I'm not denying that. I'm just saying that it's a terrible idea, and it's an even worse idea to trust that your fellow man will always decide to wait and see when something alarming happens, and to logically work something out in their mind. I mean, for all you know, you might walk into a store owned by one of the liberals on this forum! Do you honestly expect both of you to walk out of that scenario alive? You've seen how much reason they use in their posts; there wouldn't even be a shadow of that in this situation.
    part of the reason i carry concealed is so that i have an edge... open carry make you identifiable and kind of a "target"....carrying a rifle strapped across your back is silly for a number of reason

    I don't worry about liberal store owners... they aren't armed and they are no threat to me.
    their lil " no guns allowed" signs are cute though...I carry my firearms right by them without anyone being the wiser.

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    Re: Open carry question [W:46]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Now a days when you see a person with an assault rifle, you assume the worst.
    Imagine any old common person open-carrying a rifle on the day of 4 dead in O--hi--o during the 1960's.
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