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    Re: Can a Libertarian be Pro Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    I think Libertarians who are pro life are just Republicans not wanting to be associated with the GOP.
    You would be wrong on that. It has been a dispute going on amongst libertarians for a long time now. You are however right that republicans/conservatives are trying to hide amongst the libertarian ranks.

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    Re: Can a Libertarian be Pro Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Since the dozens and dozens of types of libertarians seem to make it all up as they go along - sure - they can be anything they want to be on any day they want to be and for any reason they want to be. After all, its not like the opinion of a libertarian has any real world consequences.
    Not everyone who calls themself a libertarian is actually a libertarian. Liberalism is whatever liberals say it is and is therefore subject to change. The same goes for conservatism. The definitions of those words change from time to time and place to place. From a linguistic perspective, libertarianism isn't like that. You can't change the definition of libertarianism without changing the definition of liberty.
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    Re: Can a Libertarian be Pro Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    Fair enough on point 1. I did read your post in regards to point 2. It just seems to me conservatives are jumping on the Libertarian bandwagon so people don't think they are Republicans.
    In my case, I've changed my views on drugs for example (legalize all of them), have reversed some of my views about projection of power into foreign nations (now mostly against such actions), and have gotten tired of Republicans who grow and expand government just like liberals. Instead of social hive mind thinking, I've focused on individualism and allowing people to do mostly what they want to do without government having to step in and baby sit. I still consider myself a fiscal conservative, but politically Libertarian with Right those fiscal conservative leanings (hence, Libertarian - Right).

    I was on this forum for years and had no problem identifying myself as a Conservative Republican, that was during a time it wasn't popular at all.
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    Re: Can a Libertarian be Pro Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    I think Libertarians who are pro life are just Republicans not wanting to be associated with the GOP.
    So by your being a Liberal, we can assume you fully support the Democrat party?
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    Re: Can a Libertarian be Pro Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    I think Libertarians who are pro life are just Republicans not wanting to be associated with the GOP.
    Why wouldn't they... it would be a great time to be associated with the GOP.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Can a Libertarian be Pro Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Of course a Libertarian can be pro-life. It's difficult for me to even think that was a serious question. The assumption that a Liberal, or Conservative or Libertarian must agree with their party's view 100% is moronic. Libertarians are for individual liberty. Where abortions come in, I agree with Libertarians that the government should keep their nose out of the issue. From an individual perspective I favor the rights of the unborn in MOST cases. There are cases where abortion can and should be considered. That does not change my pro-life stance. What's obvious is that the OP and author don't know liberty, don't live liberty and therefore struggles to grasp the concept of individual freedom and accountability.
    A true Libertarian would also not tell people they aren't supposed to have religious beliefs. I have none, but I respect that others do. That's the true Libertarian way. We are all entitled to choice, and the government doesn't have a right to tell us what to think.

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    Re: Can a Libertarian be Pro Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i will put it to you from a libertarian point of view as easy and simple as i can.

    libertarians are about individual liberty.

    individuals do not always exercise there rights in ways i believe to be correct, however that gives me no authority to use force/ coercion on them, to make them behave in a manner to my liking.
    Seems reasonable.

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    Re: Can a Libertarian be Pro Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    Seems reasonable.

    well ?.... it does, then why do liberals, and social conservatives, try to use force on people to make them do things they just don't like?

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    Re: Can a Libertarian be Pro Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    How does being pro-life contradict favoring small government?
    None in the least.

    One can be pro-life and anti-abortion. It is the anti...or passing legislation that is the intrusive...small government out of our lives conundrum.


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    Re: Can a Libertarian be Pro Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    So by your being a Liberal, we can assume you fully support the Democrat party?
    Depending on the platform, yes. The platform does change from time to time, but on major issues yes.

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