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    Re: Exclusive Poll for Democrats, Liberals, Progressives and Centrists__ONLY!

    There is absolutely no way. Such an excuse is pretty much the modern day equivalent of "the dog ate my homework".

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    Re: Exclusive Poll for Democrats, Liberals, Progressives and Centrists__ONLY!

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I don't believe it at all, but I rarely if ever believe what a politician tells me whichever party they are.

    I didn't believe it when the same thing happened during the Bush administration either. What about you?

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    Actually, part of the Bush email thing had to do with the investigation about Valerie Plame. I equate the two.

    I'm simply pointing out that it happens in administrations regardless of political affiliation. I don't expect anything more from them.
    Did you happen to notice that both of your posts are much more about George W than they are about Lois Lerner_

    This is very telling of your desire to deflect attention away from the Obama Administration's IRS assault on democracy_

    Considering that George is long gone; would you like to redeem yourself by posting a comment that actually pertains to the OP?

    Attention Everyone: George W Bush is old news and no matter how low he actually sank; his Administration never came close to the depths of Barack Hussein Obama's, so how about we lay Boy-George to rest__RIP!

    (and please let's try to stay focused on Lois Lerner)
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    Re: Exclusive Poll for Democrats, Liberals, Progressives and Centrists__ONLY!

    As an IT professional, I can tell you its possible but only if she was using a personal email account for official government correspondence. Even then, the only way for it to happen would be if that email account was setup as a pop account on her local computer. In such a scenario because the email client pulls down any new emails locally and automatically deletes them from the server. Local hard drive fails (happens all the time), and the emails are then lost.

    If that was the case, then I think that is pretty damning anyway because it points to extremely loose IT security policies. Most organizations don't allow you to use personal email accounts for official business for that very reason. Why should the federal government be any different?

    Another way for it to happen is if she routinely took email correspondence and sorted it into local PST files or the local office database (in the event she used a Mac). In such an a case, by moving it to local folders in a pst file, she would be deleting them from the server. If her hard drive then failed, they would be lost. This happens a lot in organizations. However, it's easily prevented by having an email archiving system in place. I would think the IRS would have such a system in place.

    Point in all this being is that its certainly possible, but I don't think its all that likely and if it did happen it points to a very incompetent IT group over at the IRS.
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    Re: Exclusive Poll for Democrats, Liberals, Progressives and Centrists__ONLY!

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Now IRS claims Lois Lerner emails lost to computer crash: Examiner Editorial | WashingtonExaminer.com
    "Now IRS claims Lois Lerner emails lost to computer crash"

    I'm well aware of the existing thread concerning this ever escalating IRS issue_

    I simply want to know how many Obama Administration supporters believe and stand by Lois Lerner_

    My biggest worry is that many on the left might be too embarrassed to make public their true opinion_

    And I already know how the opposition feels about Lerner's amazing claim so I didn't bother including them_
    Can I stand by her constitutional right to not say anything under oath that may be used against her ...but have no idea whether she is guilty or not of any wrong doing???


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    Re: Exclusive Poll for Democrats, Liberals, Progressives and Centrists__ONLY!

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Can I stand by her constitutional right to not say anything under oath that may be used against her
    Of course you may_

    The 5th Amendment clearly states that a person can't be forced to say anything that might incriminate their self!

    Which in and of itself is pretty much an admission of guilt in some form or other_

    ...but have no idea whether she is guilty or not of any wrong doing???
    Surely you jest?! I can't imagine how her guilt could be any more obvious_
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    Re: Exclusive Poll for Democrats, Liberals, Progressives and Centrists__ONLY!

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Did you happen to notice that both of your posts are much more about George W than they are about Lois Lerner_

    This is very telling of your desire to deflect attention away from the Obama Administration's IRS assault on democracy_

    Considering that George is long gone; would you like to redeem yourself by posting a comment that actually pertains to the OP?

    Attention Everyone: George W Bush is old news and no matter how low he actually sank; his Administration never came close to the depths of Barack Hussein Obama's, so how about we lay Boy-George to rest__RIP!

    (and please let's try to stay focused on Lois Lerner)
    Did you notice that the second one was a reply to your first attempt to accuse me of deflecting? Or do you just knee-jerk when you see the word "Bush?" Seems like you're the one trying to deflect now.

    When it comes to "lost" e-mails to try to derail an investigation, I'd call the two about equal. As I said, I didn't believe it then, and I don't believe it now. It's a shame that you can't see that (but not a surprise).


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    Re: Exclusive Poll for Democrats, Liberals, Progressives and Centrists__ONLY!

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    As an IT professional, I can tell you its possible but only if she was using a personal email account for official government correspondence. Even then, the only way for it to happen would be if that email account was setup as a pop account on her local computer. In such a scenario because the email client pulls down any new emails locally and automatically deletes them from the server. Local hard drive fails (happens all the time), and the emails are then lost.

    If that was the case, then I think that is pretty damning anyway because it points to extremely loose IT security policies. Most organizations don't allow you to use personal email accounts for official business for that very reason. Why should the federal government be any different?

    Another way for it to happen is if she routinely took email correspondence and sorted it into local PST files or the local office database (in the event she used a Mac). In such an a case, by moving it to local folders in a pst file, she would be deleting them from the server. If her hard drive then failed, they would be lost. This happens a lot in organizations. However, it's easily prevented by having an email archiving system in place. I would think the IRS would have such a system in place.

    Point in all this being is that its certainly possible, but I don't think its all that likely and if it did happen it points to a very incompetent IT group over at the IRS.

    It has nothing to with IT. They didn't lose jack ****. They just don't want the e-mails seen. Par for the course, it seems.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Can I stand by her constitutional right to not say anything under oath that may be used against her ...but have no idea whether she is guilty or not of any wrong doing???
    Especially when potential evidence is destroyed.
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    Re: Exclusive Poll for Democrats, Liberals, Progressives and Centrists__ONLY!

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It has nothing to with IT. They didn't lose jack ****. They just don't want the e-mails seen. Par for the course, it seems.
    I agree, I just was pointing out that it is plausible.
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    Re: Exclusive Poll for Democrats, Liberals, Progressives and Centrists__ONLY!

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It has nothing to with IT. They didn't lose jack ****. They just don't want the e-mails seen. Par for the course, it seems.
    But it's okie-dokie with you, cuz that bad ole Boy-George did it first_

    There's actually an entire political groupthat use your system to determine right from wrong_
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