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    Should the U.S. work on intentionally flopping at the World Cup?

    I like soccer well enough but I find FIFA soccer almost impossible to watch. Every four years I sit down to watch the World Cup but almost instantly turn it off because of all the flopping. Whereas in most sports the games are decided by some combination of size, strength, speed, and strategy, FIFA revolves around who can fall to the ground harder and wail loudest. This has led to plenty of hilarious videos on YouTube but it also highlights a fundamental disadvantage Americans have at soccer tournaments. We rarely do it at all and when we do we do it poorly. Should this be something the United States actually addresses?

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    Re: Should the U.S. work on intentionally flopping at the World Cup?

    Quote Originally Posted by shavingcollywob View Post
    I like soccer well enough but I find FIFA soccer almost impossible to watch. Every four years I sit down to watch the World Cup but almost instantly turn it off because of all the flopping. Whereas in most sports the games are decided by some combination of size, strength, speed, and strategy, FIFA revolves around who can fall to the ground harder and wail loudest. This has led to plenty of hilarious videos on YouTube but it also highlights a fundamental disadvantage Americans have at soccer tournaments. We rarely do it at all and when we do we do it poorly. Should this be something the United States actually addresses?

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    Re: Should the U.S. work on intentionally flopping at the World Cup?

    The game would be helped immensely by instant replay.

    I would suggest a system that allowed coaches a certain number of challenges to calls, which would then be reviewed. Not only would I have the calls erased when a player is caught flopping, but would award the penality to the other team, instead.

    I would imagine this would reduce the theatrics greatly if the refs were honorable.
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    Re: Should the U.S. work on intentionally flopping at the World Cup?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    The game would be helped immensely by instant replay.

    I would suggest a system that allowed coaches a certain number of challenges to calls, which would then be reviewed. Not only would I have the calls erased when a player is caught flopping, but would award the penality to the other team, instead.

    I would imagine this would reduce the theatrics greatly if the refs were honorable.
    I don't like the idea of instant replay. One of soccer's strengths is it's non stop flow. I would like to see a review system were all instances of a player going down is reviewed by a panel. If a player is judged to have flopped he will get a warning or 2. If he continues to flop afterward he gets a game suspension.
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    Re: Should the U.S. work on intentionally flopping at the World Cup?

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    . One of soccer's strengths is it's non stop flow..
    Damn, that dyslexia is getting to me again. I thought you said "non flop show" and was ready to give you a vigorous rebuttal.
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    Re: Should the U.S. work on intentionally flopping at the World Cup?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Damn, that dyslexia is getting to me again. I thought you said "non flop show" and was ready to give you a vigorous rebuttal.
    Do it anyways.
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    Re: Should the U.S. work on intentionally flopping at the World Cup?

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    I don't like the idea of instant replay. One of soccer's strengths is it's non stop flow. I would like to see a review system were all instances of a player going down is reviewed by a panel. If a player is judged to have flopped he will get a warning or 2. If he continues to flop afterward he gets a game suspension.
    I don't know if there really is a good answer for this.

    I definitely agree that the non-stop flow being one of the sport's strengths. It's not unheard of for boxing to change the outcome of a bout after it's finished. Maybe FIFA could create a body that reviews each game, disallows goals scored directly because of a missed call, and heavily penalize a player caught flopping. That would be a good start in getting rid of flopping without disrupting the flow of the game. Soccer games routinely end in ties anyway. It's not perfect but I think it would be better.

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    Re: Should the U.S. work on intentionally flopping at the World Cup?

    Quote Originally Posted by shavingcollywob View Post
    I don't know if there really is a good answer for this.

    I definitely agree that the non-stop flow being one of the sport's strengths. It's not unheard of for boxing to change the outcome of a bout after it's finished. Maybe FIFA could create a body that reviews each game, disallows goals scored directly because of a missed call, and heavily penalize a player caught flopping. That would be a good start in getting rid of flopping without disrupting the flow of the game. Soccer games routinely end in ties anyway. It's not perfect but I think it would be better.
    It won't effect that game, but if a player knows his play will be reviewed and can result in a suspension he will be less likely to flop.
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    Re: Should the U.S. work on intentionally flopping at the World Cup?

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    It won't effect that game, but if a player knows his play will be reviewed and can result in a suspension he will be less likely to flop.
    Not with the World Cup being a tournament.

    The incentive isn't that there's no on-field (or post-game) penalty. The incentive is flopping is just so effective. A player would be foolish not to flop his way to a World Cup victory when there's no guarantee that he'll make the team four years from now or that his team will even qualify.

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    Re: Should the U.S. work on intentionally flopping at the World Cup?

    Quote Originally Posted by shavingcollywob View Post
    Not with the World Cup being a tournament.

    The incentive isn't that there's no on-field (or post-game) penalty. The incentive is flopping is just so effective. A player would be foolish not to flop his way to a World Cup victory when there's no guarantee that he'll make the team four years from now or that his team will even qualify.
    There is flopping/cheating in every sport. Basketball sees its fair share of diving, drawing the foul etc. NFL receivers will often play to the ref in order to get that flag thrown ( especially WR's), Baseball obviously has had a major drug problem as has cycling etc. Cheating is human nature end of story.


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