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    Re: Should this sniper helping nevada cattle rancher be arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    If he is doing what it appears he's doing, than yes he should be arrested. Pointing a weapon, let alone a loaded weapon, is a criminal act, and he should not be exempted because he is the champion of the Tea Party movement. I don't agree with the third option, however. That would clearly be a violation of his 8th Amendment rights.

    As far as Cliven Bundy, his crimes were clearly evident: he had his cattle on federal property without permission. A minor crime, but it still is a crime. The fact that he made a publicity stunt out of the whole affair is pathetic.
    The government responding to a tax issue with military force SHOULD be the issue. It shouldn't matter what side of the issue you are on, there is no reason for non military offices to have access to this kind of fire power. If this is OK with you it is only so long before past due college loan notices are served with flashbangs and SWAT teams. Overly militant government offices are an afront to a free citizenry.

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    Re: Should this sniper helping nevada cattle rancher be arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by plutonium View Post
    this guy was pointing a sniper rifle at federal police officers duriing nevada cattle standoff...i take it he was possible pointing at the officer in command if he had any training.... should he be thrown under the jail.....ps black people dont get to do this....lol Attachment 67168157 Attachment 67168158
    he could be charged by Nevada law enforcement for pointing a weapon at another person... a misdemeanor.

    he probably won't be charged though...

    if he was arrested on the spot, folks might have a case, but nothing happened to him.. and it is proven he did nothing to disturb public peace or health.... he simply was not a threat.

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    Re: Should this sniper helping nevada cattle rancher be arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    The government responding to a tax issue with military force SHOULD be the issue. It shouldn't matter what side of the issue you are on, there is no reason for non military offices to have access to this kind of fire power. If this is OK with you it is only so long before past due college loan notices are served with flashbangs and SWAT teams. Overly militant government offices are an afront to a free citizenry.
    It was the Bundy crowd that originally brought weapons to the affair. The government repeatedly warned the rancher, than removed the cattle from federal land. I don't agree with an overly militant police force, but you're painting this as though the protesters were not the ones who escalated the situation.

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    Re: Should this sniper helping nevada cattle rancher be arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    It was the Bundy crowd that originally brought weapons to the affair. The government repeatedly warned the rancher, than removed the cattle from federal land. I don't agree with an overly militant police force, but you're painting this as though the protesters were not the ones who escalated the situation.
    umm, no, the Bundy crowd ( referring to the militias) showed up in response to the authorities showing up armed for bear, not the other way around.


    honestly, after watching our government authorities perpetrate ruby ridge and Waco... it's not a bad idea to have folks show up like those militias did.
    Bundy will eventually answer for any wrongdoing he has done... but riding in like an invading army like the authorities did should be cause for concern in light of past events..

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    Re: Should this sniper helping nevada cattle rancher be arrested

    Government is accountable to the people. Not the other way around.

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    Re: Should this sniper helping nevada cattle rancher be arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    umm, no, the Bundy crowd ( referring to the militias) showed up in response to the authorities showing up armed for bear, not the other way around.


    honestly, after watching our government authorities perpetrate ruby ridge and Waco... it's not a bad idea to have folks show up like those militias did.
    Bundy will eventually answer for any wrongdoing he has done... but riding in like an invading army like the authorities did should be cause for concern in light of past events..
    Well the impending investigation (see link) should resolve who brought weapons to the affair first. I don't really think this issue itself is of any more importance than a symbolic one, at most, so I'll leave it at that.

    http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2014/0...anch-standoff/

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    Re: Should this sniper helping nevada cattle rancher be arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    The government responding to a tax issue with military force SHOULD be the issue. It shouldn't matter what side of the issue you are on, there is no reason for non military offices to have access to this kind of fire power. If this is OK with you it is only so long before past due college loan notices are served with flashbangs and SWAT teams. Overly militant government offices are an afront to a free citizenry.
    What about bombing of BLM & Forest Service offices, and Forest Service employee's vehicle, oh, ah, thanks okay because it's the gubbermint they're going after, gubbermint is just so EEEEEEEEEEEEEEvil.

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    Re: Should this sniper helping nevada cattle rancher be arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by Tothian View Post
    Government is accountable to the people. Not the other way around.
    Oh, and all the more reason for protesters to show up with guns to try to intimidate gubbermint employees is okay?

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    Re: Should this sniper helping nevada cattle rancher be arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    umm, no, the Bundy crowd ( referring to the militias) showed up in response to the authorities showing up armed for bear, not the other way around.


    honestly, after watching our government authorities perpetrate ruby ridge and Waco... it's not a bad idea to have folks show up like those militias did.
    Bundy will eventually answer for any wrongdoing he has done... but riding in like an invading army like the authorities did should be cause for concern in light of past events..
    No. Bundy had advance notice the feds were coming, and dropped a dime to his American terrorist buddies.

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    Re: Should this sniper helping nevada cattle rancher be arrested

    So if the government was in the right, and clearly they had superior firepower, why did they back down?
    Last edited by tech30528; 06-22-14 at 06:59 AM.

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