View Poll Results: Who would you rather have as president?

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  • Elizabeth Warren

    40 67.80%
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    You posted a link to the ICBA site, bubba. I didn't bring up the ICBA. You did. Not sure why, except you were trying to save Cardinal who used the words "independent bank" in his first post, then refused to explain what he meant. I'm guessing you googled "independent bank" and that's how you found the ICBA link.

    Community bankers work for community banks. I have no idea what an "independent community banker is". Is that as opposed to a "dependent community banker"?
    I've been away from the party for a while. Did you ever get around to explaining why the drop in the number of banks coincided with deregulation in the 80's? I remember asking you a bunch of times and never getting an answer. Just curious.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I've been away from the party for a while. Did you ever get around to explaining why the drop in the number of banks coincided with deregulation in the 80's? I remember asking you a bunch of times and never getting an answer. Just curious.
    Which reasons are you looking for? The reasons for the community banks that failed, or the reasons for the community banks that were acquired and/or merged? Both contributed to the drop in numbers and both had entirely different reasons.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Which reasons are you looking for? The reasons for the community banks that failed, or the reasons for the community banks that were acquired and/or merged?
    Yes.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Yes.

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    Failures - many reasons, primarily economic factors which were wrapped around the markets they served. Oil & gas loans, agriculture loans, and real estate (consumer) loans defaulting at an alarmingly high rate.

    Mergers & acquisitions - the removal of the interstate banking laws and the geographic limitations on branching enabled banks to move into new demographic areas, especially when a reciprocal agreement existed between states. Mergers also were common as small banks merged with other small banks both to increase shareholder value, even if the banks were cooperatives or mutuals.

    Also new technologies were emerging in the 1980s, such as ETM, Loan Origination Systems, and core platforms replacing manual general ledgers, and the costs to implement were high; by merging, banks could share in those costs as the technologies were necessary in order for the banks to remain competitive.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    I support Warren for President. Other than Bernie Sanders, I cannot think of a better candidate who has a chance of getting more than .5% of the vote. Glass-Steagall is a very important issue for me, and I can either vote for the person who supports reinstating it, or the wife of the president who repealed it. Clinton's position on Libya is also disheartening, and her hawkish foreign policy outlined in her novel is clearly an appeal to the military industrial complex.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    I support Warren for President. Other than Bernie Sanders, I cannot think of a better candidate who has a chance of getting more than .5% of the vote. Glass-Steagall is a very important issue for me, and I can either vote for the person who supports reinstating it, or the wife of the president who repealed it. Clinton's position on Libya is also disheartening, and her hawkish foreign policy outlined in her novel is clearly an appeal to the military industrial complex.
    So it's because she's more of a socialist then.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    So it's because she's more of a socialist then.
    Really? Warren called for the abolition of private property and the overthrow the bourgeoisie in favor of proletarian internationalism? I must've missed that.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Neither.

    But anyone is better than Clinton or Obama.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    So it's because she's more of a socialist then.
    I think that is accurate. Hillary is mainly an opportunistic big government elitist. Warren is a populist power hungry asshole. NOt much difference but there is some.



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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Really?
    Progressives still want to stay in the closet with that one eh?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Warren called for the abolition of private property and the overthrow the bourgeoisie in favor of proletarian internationalism? I must've missed that.
    Is that what socialists call for or is that what communists call for? Do you know which is which?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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