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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    That's nice. Did you read my post that you quoted? You don't even know what the Federal Reserve Bank does. It's not a lender. It doesn't make mortgages. You don't even know who Janet Yellen is today.

    Can you get on the topic of this thread, which is Elizabeth Warren & Hillary Clinton, and not the CRA or the mortgage meltdown?
    Got it, you aren't honest and can't critically think

    Keep trying

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by dad2three2001 View Post
    Who is responsible for underwriting standards again?
    The banks. Is that a rhetorical question?

    What's your opinion on Warren & Clinton, which is the topic of this thread?

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    No, American Banker isn't a think tank, and it isn't right wing. Nor is CBS. Nor is Bloomberg. Try again maybe?
    Yes, they DO get their talking points from AEI, Pinto, Wallison, Mercatus, etc... Try again

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by dad2three2001 View Post
    2003-2004 F/F ACCOUNTING SCANDAL. And?

    PLEASE tell me the super powers Barney had in the GOP majority House 1995-2007? PRETTY PLEASE?



    Lower lending standards started in late 2004 which caused the Bush Mortgage Bubble.

    Center for Public Integrity reported in 2011, mortgages financed by Wall Street from 2001 to 2008 were 4˝ times more likely to be seriously delinquent than mortgages backed by Fannie and Freddie.


    The "turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007," the President's Working Group on Financial Markets OCT 2008

    Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse

    2004 Republican Convention:

    Another priority for a new term is to build an ownership society, because ownership brings security and dignity and independence.
    ...

    Thanks to our policies, home ownership in America is at an all- time high.

    (APPLAUSE)

    Tonight we set a new goal: 7 million more affordable homes in the next 10 years, so more American families will be able to open the door and say, "Welcome to my home."

    June 17, 2004

    (CNN/Money) - Home builders, realtors and others are preparing to fight a Bush administration plan that would require Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to increase financing of homes for low-income people, a home builder group said Thursday.

    Home builders fight Bush's low-income housing - Jun. 17, 2004


    JUNE 17TH 2004

    Fannie, Freddie to Suffer Under New Rule, Frank Says

    Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac would suffer financially under a Bush administration requirement that they channel more mortgage financing to people with low incomes, said the senior Democrat on a congressional panel that sets regulations for the companies.


    So if your narrative is "GSEs are to blame" then you have to blame bush


    http://democrats.financialservices.h...-Bloomberg.pdf


    Examining the big lie: How the facts of the economic crisis stack up

    The boom and bust was global. Proponents of the Big Lie ignore the worldwide nature of the housing boom and bust.

    A McKinsey Global Institute report noted “from 2000 through 2007, a remarkable run-up in global home prices occurred.” It is highly unlikely that a simultaneous boom and bust everywhere else in the world was caused by one set of factors (ultra-low rates, securitized AAA-rated subprime, derivatives) but had a different set of causes in the United States. Indeed, this might be the biggest obstacle to pushing the false narrative.



    Nonbank mortgage underwriting exploded from 2001 to 2007, along with the private label securitization market, which eclipsed Fannie and Freddie during the boom.

    Private lenders not subject to congressional regulations collapsed lending standards.

    Examining the big lie: How the facts of the economic crisis stack up | The Big Picture


    GOV'T CREATED A WORLD WIDE CREDIT BUBBLE HUH? LOL
    yes the government caused a lot of problems.....

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The banks. Is that a rhetorical question?

    What's your opinion on Warren & Clinton, which is the topic of this thread?

    So after being destroyed on your false premises, distortions and lies about REGULATIONS which, in context with Warren's positions AND those posits you took, WERE relevant.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by dad2three2001 View Post
    Got it, you aren't honest and can't critically think

    Keep trying
    Sure I'm honest. I pointed out how silly your post was. You said that there was nothing wrong with the CRA because of Janet Yellen (not Yellin) saying it. You went on to say that she as a CEO should have been bashing the government, because all CEOs bash the government, for making bad loans, since she was the CEO of a bank. I had to bring you up to speed on what the Federal Reserve Bank of San Fran is, and help you to understand that she wouldn't bash the government because she was the government, and she also was the CEO of a "bank" that didn't make loans. It's part of the Federal Reserve, and Obama promoted her from CEO of San Fran to CEO of the entire Fed.

    I can't get more honest than that, and critical thinking involves knowing the facts about people you use to try to make an argument so you don't end up looking really silly.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by dad2three2001 View Post
    Yes, they DO get their talking points from AEI, Pinto, Wallison, Mercatus, etc... Try again
    Wow, I can't even post to you anymore. You've made more false statements than any poster I think I've ever seen on here.

    Happy Father's Day!

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    yes the government caused a lot of problems.....
    Yeah, WORLD WIDE dozens of nations, Philippines, Japan, China, UK, Ireland, Spain, etc

    Jun 16, 2005

    The worldwide rise in house prices is the biggest bubble in history. Prepare for the economic pain when it pops

    According to estimates by The Economist, the total value of residential property in developed economies rose by more than $30 trillion over the past five years, to over $70 trillion, an increase equivalent to 100% of those countries' combined GDPs.

    The global housing boom: In come the waves | The Economist


    YES, THAT WAS CLINTON'S, CRA AND BARNEY'S FAULT *shaking head*


    BUSH REGULATOR FAILURE IN THE US, AS BUSH WAS HEAD CHEERLEADER FOR THE BANKSTERS

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Wow, I can't even post to you anymore. You've made more false statements than any poster I think I've ever seen on here.

    Happy Father's Day!
    Got it, Like your false premises on Clinton/Cisnero's, after being beaten down with FACTS and truth, you run away. GOOD

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by dad2three2001 View Post
    Yeah, WORLD WIDE dozens of nations, Philippines, Japan, China, UK, Ireland, Spain, etc

    Jun 16, 2005

    The worldwide rise in house prices is the biggest bubble in history. Prepare for the economic pain when it pops

    According to estimates by The Economist, the total value of residential property in developed economies rose by more than $30 trillion over the past five years, to over $70 trillion, an increase equivalent to 100% of those countries' combined GDPs.

    The global housing boom: In come the waves | The Economist


    YES, THAT WAS CLINTON'S, CRA AND BARNEY'S FAULT *shaking head*


    BUSH REGULATOR FAILURE IN THE US, AS BUSH WAS HEAD CHEERLEADER FOR THE BANKSTERS
    your see, here is what you dont get....i said NOTHING ABOUT ANY PARTY...i said government.........but since you only think in terms of party, that is why you are lost, and wrong when you post.

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