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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Upgrade "bordering on evasive" to "full-on evasive." Your fixation on one word in an attempt to avoid bringing any concrete insight is transparent as hell, but this is what I've come to recognize from your posting style since you've begun here: bring nothing, be as condescending as you possibly can to everyone in the room, and then leave the room no better (and measurably worse) than you found it. For the most part I try to behave on this site as I would if I were using my real name, and I simply can't believe you behave in real life as you do here. You'd be outcast from every social event instantly.
    ... which may be why we so sooo many of her posts
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    here you go, they are the banks these bankers work for: local community banks
    ICBA - Advocacy - 2014 Policy Resolutions
    their agenda is shown for your benefit. notice their opposition to a continuation of too-big-to-fail
    He wasn't talking about the ICBA in his post. I know the ICBA very well.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    That's because she didn't. Warren, like a true Progressive, refuses to make the borrowers have any responsibility for their actions. In her mind, it's everyone else's fault.

    That link is to QM/ATR which I've mentioned a few times in this thread. QM/ATR is going to drive an enormous percentage of community banks & credit unions out of the lending business. They can't handle it, and not because they were ever making risky loans to begin with, but because of what's involved in the documentation, underwriting etc. of loans now. So I hope people are happy when they can only go to Bank of America, Chase, and the other big banks to get a mortgage, because that is what is going to happen in the end.

    Warren is helping the big banks and that's why they love her.
    Yeah, the people borrowing the money during Bush's subprime crisis were at fault, NOT the Bankster who gave up lending standards and wrote the checks *shaking head*

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So you can't define what you said, which leads me to the obvious - you don't even know what you said. Have a great Father's Day, Cardinal!
    It's your reputation. Have fun with it.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    What percentage of people, would you guesstimate, are stupid.
    No clue. I've never had to think about it. I guess it depends on your definition of stupid, which is broad. In terms of what I'm talking about in this thread, the stupid people were the ones who got themselves in trouble. One example I gave earlier were the people who made $50,000 a year and wanted to live in a $750,000 house, and took very foolish mortgages so they could do so. They are stupid, as are the ones in another example I gave where someone with $100 in his checking account writes a check for $350. That's just fundamental math.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    It's your reputation. Have fun with it.
    I'm married, I don't need to worry about a reputation anymore. That was only in my early college days before I met my husband and made dumb mistakes when I was drunk.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by dad2three2001 View Post
    Yeah, the people borrowing the money during Bush's subprime crisis were at fault, NOT the Bankster who gave up lending standards and wrote the checks *shaking head*
    Maybe we run with a different crowd. Me, my friends, my family, we are all responsible for our money. It's a pretty good way to live.

    But hey, if Warren has her way, the only banks you can go to are those very very large banks that were making the bad loans. Good thing they will prevail, and the small ones that didn't do anything foolish will fold.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm married, I don't need to worry about a reputation anymore.
    Wow. That...actually clarifies everything.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Tell you how many what? Banks went under in the 1940s? I showed you how many banks were around 30 years ago versus now. I'd like to do the research for you on banks that collapsed during the Depression, but I don't have any interest in that myself because it has nothing to do with Elizabeth Warren and the CFPB.

    You said community banks were doing fine the last 50 years, MG. I showed you that your statement was not accurate.

    Wall Street and Main Street Grew At the Same Pace From 1940-1980. Since Then, Not So Much. Why Is That?

    financialization Archives | Too Big Has Failed

    The magnitude of the current financial crisis reflects the failure of an economic and regulatory philosophy that proved increasingly influential in policy circles during the past three decades. This philosophy, guided more by theory than historical experience, held that private financial institutions not insured by the government could be largely trusted to manage their own risks—to regulate themselves. The crisis has suggested otherwise


    From Crisis to Calm

    Of course, financial panics and crises are nothing new. For most of the nation’s history, they represented a regular and often debilitating feature of American life. Until the Great Depression, major crises struck about every 15 to 20 years—in 1792, 1797, 1819, 1837, 1857, 1873, 1893, 1907, and 1929-33.

    But then the crises stopped. In fact, the United States did not suffer another major banking crisis for just about 50 years

    A risk-management plan to help prevent financial crises | Harvard Magazine Sep-Oct 2009

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    He wasn't talking about the ICBA in his post. I know the ICBA very well.
    who would independent community bankers be working for instead? please don't also run away from that easy question
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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