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Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

Who is MOST to blame for the problems of African Americans?

  • GOP

    Votes: 5 5.1%

  • Black Leadership

    Votes: 22 22.4%

  • Democrats

    Votes: 15 15.3%

  • Other

    Votes: 56 57.1%
  • Total voters
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Cephus said:
Yes, very much so and if you move to Asian communities, not only do they tend to support those who move up, they expect it. All of these groups have different cultural norms and among those groups, only the ghetto black community is actively eating their own.
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I've seen what I assume are white people on here calling blacks who oppose the Liberal and/or Democratic ideas as "Uncle Toms". It's disgusting.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Wrong. Like I said, some of the writing of the time is much hand-ringing over drugs minorities use, and these laws target them specifically. Black people are not the highest percentage of drug users -- not even close -- and they are sent to prison at a rate much higher than the percentage of drug users they comprise, and also much higher than the percentage of arrested drug users they comprise.
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Need to shift your focus from drug users to drug sales. Virtually nobody of any race goes to prison just for using drugs.

That would be against the Laws of Easy Liberal Votes.
 
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Ray410 said:
Need to shift your focus from drug users to drug sales. Virtually nobody of any race goes to prison just for using drugs.
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I agree, I don't think drug users ought to be in jail at all, they need to be in mandatory treatment programs. Drug dealers, on the other hand, ought to be put to death.
 
MasterLiberty said:
The title is evident. Who is the MOST to blame for the problems of African Americans today??
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I think a better question is; who's more capable of changing their own problems, someone else or themselves? Like an addict, you can't help a person that doesn't really want it.
 
tres borrachos said:
It's certainly not a positive thing.

I'd like to know how many of them are capable of taking care of the children they bear without "assistance". I don't think you need to be married to have children, but you certainly need to be able to care for them andprovide for them on your own if you make that choice to do it alone.
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Black single mothers have the highest welfare rate of any demographic in the United States, I believe.

Either way you want to look at it, the shift towards single parent families hasn't been for the better.
 
RedAkston said:
No it wasn't. The drug laws (and the subsequent "war on drugs") targets drug users. The enforcement of these laws may be a different story, but the intent of the drug laws and the "war on drugs" was not to "target minorities" as you seem to proclaim.
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You have lost track of who said what, the ENFORCEMENT of the laws is biased against minorities.
 
Gathomas88 said:
Look at the figures. African Americans made their greatest social and economic gains in American Society prior to the 1970s.

They have largely stalled since then.
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That is a highly simplified analysis. You have to consider the migration of black people from agriculture to the city for factory jobs, the growing disparity of salaries due to favoring those with college educations, and the final hammer falling with the abandonment of the cities by those factories. There are a lot more factors going on than "Black people just suckz lol!"
 
Ray410 said:
Need to shift your focus from drug users to drug sales. Virtually nobody of any race goes to prison just for using drugs.

That would be against the Laws of Easy Liberal Votes.
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I'm trying to think of a time where someone was sent to jail because he was caught snorting coke in his house, or because he was smoking a joint outside a concert, and I can't remember one instance.
 
Cardinal said:
That is a highly simplified analysis. You have to consider the migration of black people from agriculture to the city for factory jobs, the growing disparity of salaries due to favoring those with college educations, and the final hammer falling with the abandonment of the cities by those factories. There are a lot more factors going on than "Black people just suckz lol!"
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Didn't white people have the same experiences with the above?
 
Cephus said:
And whose fault is that? The poor white community doesn't punish whites for trying to get out of the ghetto. The poor Hispanic community doesn't call Hispanics who try to better themselves "Uncle Tomas". It's only the black community who turns on their own for trying to be successful.
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WTF? You are leaving out other races bias influence upon the Black community....you are denying the existence of racism.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
WTF? You are leaving out other races bias influence upon the Black community....you are denying the existence of racism.
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You are insisting that racism exists, prove it. Clearly other races don't have the same problems, why are you suggesting that blacks get to play the racism card and nobody else needs to.
 
Cephus said:
I agree, I don't think drug users ought to be in jail at all, they need to be in mandatory treatment programs. Drug dealers, on the other hand, ought to be put to death.
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Especially the ones who peddle drugs to kids, but I'll even include the ones who sell these exotic drugs to the young hipsters who can afford to buy them.
 
tres borrachos said:
Especially the ones who peddle drugs to kids, but I'll even include the ones who sell these exotic drugs to the young hipsters who can afford to buy them.
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I apply it to everyone. If we summarily executed absolutely everyone, rich or poor, black or white, young or old, who is convicted of dealing in any illicit substance, you'd stop the flow of drugs immediately. No exceptions, kill 'em all.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Gee - African Americans have problems? After 5 plus years in the White House of the transformative Presidency? After about 95% of all African Americans who cast their votes voted to elect and reelect that self-same transformative figure? After upwards of 90% of all African Americans who cast ballots in federal elections have been voting Democrat for decades and decades?

Gee - if they have any problems, do you think maybe it might have something to do with the people they keep sending to the party in Washington DC?
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Yes, it's the black people who keep deciding to elect the wrong people. If only they did a better job of voting, all their problems would be solved.
 
sangha said:
Yes, it's the black people who keep deciding to elect the wrong people. If only they did a better job of voting, all their problems would be solved.
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Most of them don't vote, which certainly is a contributing factor. You can't elect the "right" people if you don't bother to try.
 
Cephus said:
And whose fault is that? The poor white community doesn't punish whites for trying to get out of the ghetto. The poor Hispanic community doesn't call Hispanics who try to better themselves "Uncle Tomas". It's only the black community who turns on their own for trying to be successful.
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Yes, actually, it does. I have witnessed it myself, as I grew up in a solid middle class family, but I hung around with the poor kids. It is one aspect of the cycle of poverty that I have pointed out to people over the years, in all communities. Poor people, in general, treat their own like they are getting too 'high brow' if they try to improve themselves. It is very discouraging for a teen to experience that sort of emotional beat down. I was lucky, and was surrounded by a different kind of family (though far from perfect, for sure). I appreciate that fact almost every day.
 
sangha said:
Yes, it's the black people who keep deciding to elect the wrong people. If only they did a better job of voting, all their problems would be solved.
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Mitt Romney would have fixed racism. Thanks, Obama.
 
Gathomas88 said:
Again, the simple fact of the matter is that they were doing just fine for themselves right up until the mid Twentieth Century.
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Am I reading you wrong or did you just say that black people were doing fine before 1950?
 
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