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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I'm not sure changing an area like that is even possible.
    Perhaps not.

    Especially since doing so would probably require measures that are illegal.

    Not to mention changing the residents as well.
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I'm not sure they're any worse off than anyone would be in the areas they live (I'm assuming here that you refer to the situation black persons who live in specific areas are in, since outside that I suspect their lives are much like anyone else)

    But then I haven't looked at the issue much...

    I don't think blaming any one thing is reasonable.

    And I would suggest that it's the area, not the people. Although the two are interrelated to a degree...
    In the case of inner City areas, the environment is not the cause, its a symptom and a indicator.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    In the case of inner City areas, the environment is not the cause, its a symptom and a indicator.
    At this point the environment is both the cause and the symptom.

    The environment begets individuals who maintain the environment, IOW.
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAkston View Post
    It prevents it? Why should I pay for someone else's birth control?
    It's a heck of a lot less brutal and/or cheaper than the alternative.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    It's a heck of a lot less brutal and/or cheaper than the alternative.
    The alternative being that they pay for their own birth control? How is that "brutal"?
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAkston View Post
    The alternative being that they pay for their own birth control? How is that "brutal"?
    When a person cannot afford it, the alternative is a) abortion b) paying for child welfare c) paying for birth control is far far far far far far cheaper and far less brutal

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    I blame geography and history.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    When a person cannot afford it, the alternative is a) abortion b) paying for child welfare c) paying for birth control is far far far far far far cheaper and far less brutal
    If one can't afford cable TV they don't get it.
    If one can't afford a new car, they repair the older car they have.
    But if one cannot afford birth control, BY GOD SOMEONE ELSE SHOULD PAY FOR IT!!!!!

    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    When a person cannot afford it, the alternative is a) abortion b) paying for child welfare c) paying for birth control is far far far far far far cheaper and far less brutal
    Anyone who's old enough for sex should be able to buy their own birth control. It's really not that expensive.
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Exclusionary white people. Slavery and de jure segregation are over, but poverty acts as a de facto segregator, and since meaningful social mobility in America ended around the same time as the civil rights movement, there are still many many African-Americans living in poverty. The problem lies in how middle-to-upper class (white) America is able to segregate itself in neighborhoods, schools, and employment from the poor. It creates a vicious, inescapable circle.
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