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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    I really think it is a combination of many different factors. To say it is the fault of one source, a certain party, or "Black leadership," is misguided. What exactly do you mean by black leadership? There are very many political leaders in the African American community, but they all have different backgrounds and different political ideologies. To group Ben Carson, Barack Obama, Martin Luther King Jr., and Marcus Garvey, among others, in the same category and to say that they all seek the same goals is laughable. One could say Democrats and Republicans have jointly allowed it to happen. This doesn't restrict itself to the plight of African-Americans: people of every race who suffer from poverty can look to the failed leadership of both parties, who have held a duopoly on American politics, with very few exceptions, for over a century. One of the largest and most noticeable results of this duopoly between a right-wing and centrist party is the absence of a universal healthcare system when one exists in virtually every country in the industrialized world. This leads to higher poverty rates which negatively affect the African-American population.

    However, I have something to add about the phrasing of the question. If we continue the premise is that we are thinking of the problems of African-Americans as separate from the rest of the U.S., we can never truly never solve the issue of racial inequality. Racially focused social programs, while well-intentioned, create a mindset in society that one race is more "deserving" of benefits than another, according to the government, and therefore creates racial tensions. What is needed is social programs such as class-based affirmative action that will aid all people in poverty regardless of race. If the government continues to operate by using racially biased policies, one can guarantee that the populous will have racist sympathies in one direction or the other.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterLiberty View Post
    The title is evident. Who is the MOST to blame for the problems of African Americans today??
    What problems to African americans have today?
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Blacks themselves. They encourage scapegoatism and "blaming whitey". If you're a success doing something besides ballin, slingin, or rappin, you're a sellout. If you speak coherently, you're "talking white". If you're black and support responsibility amongst your own, you're an Uncle Tom.

    Black culture does great at keeping their own people down and explaining who is to blame for it.
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Oh...OK, slavery, in the US, was not about racism.


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    Lots of white people have been taken slaves over the course of history. Look at the Vikings as just one example. I doubt that they ever had a slave who wasn't white. Why is it that you can only equate slavery with blacks?? An honest historical perspective shows that they were far from the only people made slaves, yet that's where your mind automatically jumps. Are you just completely ignorant of any history outside of American history? Do you think that blacks are supposed to be slaves?? Or maybe (here's by far the most likely scenario) you are too lazy to think outside of the parameter set forth by your political orientation??
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I'm want to focus on both and more. As your post makes clear, you see it in black and white. That either/or type thinking is flawed
    Some things I do see as a binary choice, others not so much. But I'm always honest about either one. You have chosen to pick and choose issues that support the deterioration of this situation and I choose those that support overcoming it. Who working for the best for the people living in poverty?? Here's a hint: IT AIN'T YOU!!!
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    All of the above .. to a lesser or greater extent.
    Solution (my idea) a national open and HONEST dialog, including emotional releases..
    The "dialog / discussion" MUST BE well moderated...we have too many people who can not think/reason with respect.. I see this crap on MSNBC and Fox every day and am tired of it...

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Correct answer is not on the list. Crack.

    Prior to the introduction of crack, blacks were on track to equal whites in pay, housing, education and a whole host of other issues. Crack basically stopped that and they lost ground.
    A definite factor...no doubt.
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    I really think it is a combination of many different factors. To say it is the fault of one source, a certain party, or "Black leadership," is misguided. What exactly do you mean by black leadership? There are very many political leaders in the African American community, but they all have different backgrounds and different political ideologies. To group Ben Carson, Barack Obama, Martin Luther King Jr., and Marcus Garvey, among others, in the same category and to say that they all seek the same goals is laughable. One could say Democrats and Republicans have jointly allowed it to happen. This doesn't restrict itself to the plight of African-Americans: people of every race who suffer from poverty can look to the failed leadership of both parties, who have held a duopoly on American politics, with very few exceptions, for over a century. One of the largest and most noticeable results of this duopoly between a right-wing and centrist party is the absence of a universal healthcare system when one exists in virtually every country in the industrialized world. This leads to higher poverty rates which negatively affect the African-American population.

    However, I have something to add about the phrasing of the question. If we continue the premise is that we are thinking of the problems of African-Americans as separate from the rest of the U.S., we can never truly never solve the issue of racial inequality. Racially focused social programs, while well-intentioned, create a mindset in society that one race is more "deserving" of benefits than another, according to the government, and therefore creates racial tensions. What is needed is social programs such as class-based affirmative action that will aid all people in poverty regardless of race. If the government continues to operate by using racially biased policies, one can guarantee that the populous will have racist sympathies in one direction or the other.
    Probably the best and most intelligent answer.
    libs blaming cons or vice versa solves nothing , and is childish.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Why is it that you can only equate slavery with blacks??
    Straw, I never said I could not......BUT....the focus of the debate IS blacks...in the US.....and the point still is that white racism was a fundamental rationale for slavery's continuation in the South.
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Lots of white people have been taken slaves over the course of history. Look at the Vikings as just one example. I doubt that they ever had a slave who wasn't white. Why is it that you can only equate slavery with blacks?? An honest historical perspective shows that they were far from the only people made slaves, yet that's where your mind automatically jumps. Are you just completely ignorant of any history outside of American history? Do you think that blacks are supposed to be slaves?? Or maybe (here's by far the most likely scenario) you are too lazy to think outside of the parameter set forth by your political orientation??
    People have been taken as slaves for different reasons throughout history. Your thinking is indeed strangely binary.

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