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Thread: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I suspect we're not going to agree on this one. IMO, it's a bit pedantic to get hung up over the difference between racial prejudice and racism when the end result (disparate treatment based on race) is the same.

    But you're a pretty smart guy. Maybe you can explain why that is a significant difference
    Being prejudice does not make one a racist. Not feeling comfortable walking out to your car at night if there is a black male hanging around the parking lot (this can be seen as prejudice) is a far cry from saying that black males cannot use the same bathroom as white males (this is institutional racism).
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Wait, you just said that black racists outnumbered white racists where you grew up......so what happened.....have they all died.....and the racism in America died with them?
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    No I didn't .....
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    I would venture to say that the numbers of black who hate or are intolerant of whites is probably about the same as whites who hate or are intolerant of blacks if not more so.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAkston View Post
    Being prejudice does not make one a racist. Not feeling comfortable walking out to your car at night if there is a black male hanging around the parking lot (this can be seen as prejudice) is a far cry from saying that black males cannot use the same bathroom as white males (this is institutional racism).
    Looky there, you differentiated thought from action.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Really....who said:
    I didn't say "where I grew up" in that quote did I? Nope, didn't think so. This is where you should give up.
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You are in denial, I'm not the one to help with that.
    That's actually sad that you think that way, because real racism is harder to distinguish when people are willing to call any noticeable differences racist.
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I'll admit when you've made a good point but you won't reciprocate, which makes debating you pointless sometimes.
    Once again I don't understand your response. You asked me if it was something that happened "overall". I don't know what you meant by that, so I said so and explained that I had seen it in a many different situations.

    What was I supposed to reciprocate? Was I supposed to say it doesn't happen "overall" when I don't even understand what you mean by that?
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAkston View Post
    I didn't say "where I grew up" in that quote did I? Nope, didn't think so. This is where you should give up.
    Oh, you are wiggling out of a debate on race because you said "where you lived" instead of "where you grew up".

    Wow, that is pretty pathetic. I had no idea that my argument...or yours....depended upon such a difference in time.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    That's actually sad that you think that way, because real racism is harder to distinguish when people are willing to call any noticeable differences racist.
    Weird...I did not know that I was calling "any differences" anything.

    I have to stop myself from being so absolute.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I am more on your side than you realize. I detest real racism and think it's an abomination, especially since I'm part Native American. But I think the real deal can't be vanquished if we continually call out every human slight or weakness as racism.
    I agree that there is a tendency for many people to call any policy which has a disparate impact on black people "racist" when oftentimes the policy is based on our attitudes towards poverty and not race (which ends up having a disparate impact because blacks are more likely to be poor)

    However, I also think it's a bit pedantic to concern ourselves over whether the problem is racism or classism when the effect of a policy causes more harm to blacks than to other groups
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Once again I don't understand your response. You asked me if it was something that happened "overall". I don't know what you meant by that, so I said so and explained that I had seen it in a many different situations.

    What was I supposed to reciprocate? Was I supposed to say it doesn't happen "overall" when I don't even understand what you mean by that?
    You're very intelligent but allow your bias to control your perception. Do you believe Obama was elected because he was black or the best candidate.
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