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Thread: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAkston View Post
    But those days are long gone and behind us.
    Wait, you just said that black racists outnumbered white racists where you grew up......so what happened.....have they all died.....and the racism in America died with them?
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I agree that there is a difference between prejudice and racism. However, as commonly used, the term racism is often used to describe prejudice when the prejudice is based on race or even ethnicity.
    But "prejudice" can be based on race, not necessarily "is" based on race. One can be prejudice against women, homosexuals, redheads, people who drive BMW's or people under 5 feet tall. Just because someone has a prejudice against blacks doesn't mean that they are a racist unless they act on it.
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I already explained there are two versions. Sadly enough, it's the defenders of racial rights that are the worst offenders. Real racism, as I've experienced in the south is far more observable than any PC crap that is identified as possibly offensive. It amounts to namby pamby words and name calling, when I've seen real hatred in action.
    TBH, I really don't understand what you're saying here. I was pointing out that i've seen people who did their job,etc and were not rewarded with advancement because of their race. That's a bit more than namby pamby words and name calling. It is a clear harm to people's livelihoods.
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Wait, you just said that black racists outnumbered white racists where you grew up......so what happened.....have they all died.....and the racism in America died with them?
    No I didn't and no they haven't. I can see that debating with you is pointless because you use your own definitions as opposed to the actual definitions, you read something that isn't there and you put words in people's mouths that they did not say. I don't think your posts could be any more dishonest even if you put forth a little more effort to make them so.
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAkston View Post
    I agree completely, the past is the past. We need to learn from the past and not make the same mistakes. Some "groups" tend to do this better than others.
    I'm not sure where or how the discussion went from "Does racism bear some of the blame?" to "Does slavery bear some of the blame?"

    IMO, racism is something that is not limited to the slavery or something else that happened a long time ago
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAkston View Post
    I've lived in or around big cities my entire life before I moved to the south. Yes, despite your inexperience, there is a percentage of blacks who do hate whites and it even permeates itself in some hardcore rap music. But that percentage (you seem to have missed this the first time) is so small that it's insignificant in your attempt to scream "RAciSM ExisTS EVerYWherE!"
    I understand, racist views are held by an insignificant number of people....and of those that do, blacks racists outnumber all, including white racists!


    So you're using a definition of racism that is not the actual definition and therein lies the problem. You are using the definition of prejudice and not racism. This explains why you have been so wrong about everything in this entire thread.
    Ah, prejudice....is a physical action.

    Wow, somebody better tell the Civil Rights Commission they got it all wrong.
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    TBH, I really don't understand what you're saying here. I was pointing out that i've seen people who did their job,etc and were not rewarded with advancement because of their race. That's a bit more than namby pamby words and name calling. It is a clear harm to people's livelihoods.
    I've never actually seen racism on that level, at least not since the 70's. If you think that's where this country currently exists, then I think you're being, not only unrealistic, but overboard.
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAkston View Post
    But "prejudice" can be based on race, not necessarily "is" based on race. One can be prejudice against women, homosexuals, redheads, people who drive BMW's or people under 5 feet tall. Just because someone has a prejudice against blacks doesn't mean that they are a racist unless they act on it.
    Yes, I noted that there is a difference between prejudice and racism. However, I also noted that in common conversation, the two terms are often used interchangeably.

    IOW, if you change the question from "Is racism to blame?" to "Is prejudice to blame?" you haven't really done much to change the discussion other than which word you use to describe the problem.
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I've never actually seen racism on that level, at least not since the 70's. If you think that's where this country currently exists, then I think you're being, not only unrealistic, but overboard.
    If that's what you think, then I'll ask you again "Why is that so hard to accept?"
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, I noted that there is a difference between prejudice and racism. However, I also noted that in common conversation, the two terms are often used interchangeably.

    IOW, if you change the question from "Is racism to blame?" to "Is prejudice to blame?" you haven't really done much to change the discussion other than which word you use to describe the problem.
    And if you changed it to "Is perceived racism to blame?" or "Is perceived prejudice to blame?" we would get an even bigger change in the discussion. But when one is talking about "prejudice" and others are talking about actual "racism", it starts to get ridiculous.
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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