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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Ah, it had nothing to do with racism....got it.
    Don't short quote me. If you want to have a discussion, be willing to discuss all points as presented...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAkston View Post
    How about you defining what you believe racism is and then maybe we can go from there because you seem to be confused on what true racism actually is.
    I played this game earlier and asked another conservative to define racism so that we could reach an agreement. I know how it is defined, I'm not the one in denial about it's existence, so I'll allow you to find a common definition that shows it does not exist in the US.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Actually, it was about exploitation. There were many Blacks that lived free...
    I actually disagree, but I'll let gimme define racism first and then respond.
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Don't short quote me.
    I'l cut your quote to focus on what I want to discuss and ignore the filler.

    If you want to hold that racism had nothing to do with slavery...fine....there you are.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Who do I blame?

    People - especially non-'African' Americans - you won't stop going on and on and on and on about 'race' problems.

    Maybe if they stop thinking of 'African' Americans as 'them' instead of 'us'...the problem would eventually fade away and America would become one giant melting pot.

    I hope America one day is full of 'mutts'...no 'whites', no 'blacks', no 'latino's, no 'east asian's'...just 'mutts'.


    Btw...I am 'white'.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You tell me.
    There's two forms of racism. One is obvious and superficially stupid, the other is by far more insidious and damaging, because the perpetrators hide their intentions behind political correctness and elitism, and can even be supposed supporters, like liberals. The ladder is far harder to accuse and eradicate because they pretend to support the cause of anti bigotry, though they perpetuate it by constant accusations of any perceived slights that they can magnify and use out of proportion.
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    ...and they also have many similarities. You want look at those bits and pieces that support the furthering of the lack of responsibility among the people in this country who seem locked into a life of poverty and I want focus on those that show that they can rise above that poverty. Which one is building a future and which one is wallowing in the past???
    I'm want to focus on both and more. As your post makes clear, you see it in black and white. That either/or type thinking is flawed
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    There's a code of uniformity and achievement in today's society that is universal and if followed will most likely lead to success. Maybe even more so for minorities over Caucasians.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You are saying that minorities need to act White.....which runs counter to the claim that racism in America is "insignificant".
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    School me on how one acts white.. Is that a particular way.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You tell me.
    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    There's two forms of racism.....
    Wait wait wait.....you were going to tell me, or at least I thought my point was clear, of what the:

    "code of uniformity and achievement"

    ....is?

    Are you going to say what it is?
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    I played this game earlier and asked another conservative to define racism so that we could reach an agreement. I know how it is defined, I'm not the one in denial about it's existence, so I'll allow you to find a common definition that shows it does not exist in the US.
    OK, I'll define racism and then we can compare how you define racism.

    Racism | Define Racism at Dictionary.com

    1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
    By this definition, racism is so infinitesimal in the US that it's not even worth mentioning. I'm not denying that there are those who feel that "their race" is superior and that they feel they have the right to "rule others", but there are so few that it's a non-issue.

    2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
    What policies are based in the belief that one race is superior to another and that the "lesser" races should be "ruled"? We are governed by a representative republic, not a theocracy or a dictatorship, that would allow such a government.

    3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
    Again, we are talking infinitesimal numbers that fall into this category. I would venture to say that the numbers of black who hate or are intolerant of whites is probably about the same as whites who hate or are intolerant of blacks if not more so. Of course this is only my perception and I don't have a nice little graph or a poll with pretty lines and colors on it. I base this on my own life experiences having lived in both the midwest and the deep south.

    So how do you define racism?
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAkston View Post
    I would venture to say that the numbers of black who hate or are intolerant of whites is probably about the same as whites who hate or are intolerant of blacks if not more so. Of course this is only my perception and I don't have a nice little graph or a poll with pretty lines and colors on it. I base this on my own life experiences having lived in both the midwest and the deep south.

    So how do you define racism?
    OMFG!

    Really, living in the South gave you the experience that racism more significant for whites than blacks, that the number of blacks who are racists outnumber whites who are racists.

    When one believes that, there is no point in producing graphs....or research.

    PS..

    Racism
    Is any action or attitude, conscious or unconscious, that subordinates an individual or group based on skin color or race. It can be enacted individually or institutionally.

    Source: US Civil Rights Commission
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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