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Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

Who is MOST to blame for the problems of African Americans?

  • GOP

    Votes: 5 5.1%
  • Black Leadership

    Votes: 22 22.4%
  • Democrats

    Votes: 15 15.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 56 57.1%

  • Total voters
    98
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Quite humorous. A nation keeps an entire population in slavery for close to 300 years, frees them without any real measure of support, and then asks who is to blame for their plight only a generation after many were even allowed to vote in a great portion of the nation.
 
Quite humorous. A nation keeps an entire population in slavery for close to 300 years, frees them without any real measure of support, and then asks who is to blame for their plight only a generation after many were even allowed to vote in a great portion of the nation.

Sometimes it is only an outsider who can see the picture clearly because they are neutral to the whole scenario.

The fact that it's only taken a generation after civil rights was granted for this population to produce military and business leaders as well as a President shows that America denied itself a pool of talent for 300 years.
 
The title is evident. Who is the MOST to blame for the problems of African Americans today??

Whoever insisted on historically discriminated against and as a consequence disadvantaged minorities eligible for government assistance if the father abandons his family as a requirement for his children to eat starting in the late 60s/early 70s.
 
I don't know about you, but being lucky enough to be shot out the **** of someone who owns a hotel chain doesn't meet my qualifications for "success."

edit) Paris Hilton has done nothing to increase the wealth she was born with, and as far as I know, hasn't sought out any form of higher education. As increase in wealth and education are the easiest tools for measuring a person's success, Paris Hilton is technically a failure.

Education, albeit a frequent source of improvement in many people's life, is not a requirement for success.

Ms Hilton, by any reasonable measure, is a success who has a very successful and well paying career.
 
Maybe part of the problem is that they are African first and American second. Perhaps they should consider just being American, might help.
 
Quite humorous. A nation keeps an entire population in slavery for close to 300 years, frees them without any real measure of support, and then asks who is to blame for their plight only a generation after many were even allowed to vote in a great portion of the nation.

absolutely astute and accurate.
 
Quite humorous. A nation keeps an entire population in slavery for close to 300 years, frees them without any real measure of support, and then asks who is to blame for their plight only a generation after many were even allowed to vote in a great portion of the nation.

What a bunch of absolute nonsense.

Thanks to people like you, who perpetuate the narrative that Black people are somehow inherently incapable of rising above their station on their own, that they need assistance above and beyond the level afforded to all others, inner city poverty and crime will continue to be a significant problem.

The victim mentality rhetoric only perpetuates their struggles.
 
The title is evident. Who is the MOST to blame for the problems of African Americans today??


The same thing, largely, that is to blame for the problems of Mexicans and poor whites.


Generation to generation of said group being raised with lower class values that are never diagnosed through the generations, compounding the problem.


Not just this but I'd also strongly argue that America and every other large country in the world will now forever have an addict prone "mass underclass" part of its population that largely cannot be saved.

Drug use is so easily available and purchasable, even by the poor, that anyone who wants to can completely and cheaply leave to a temporary drug induced universe to escape their poverty and or hell that neither they or anyone in their lives knows or ever has had the insight to escape.


It's hard to argue with a person who does drugs who knows that the best they will ever do in life is rent a cheap little apartment and just scrape by. Those people aren't ever going to come around because they have no logical reason to. They do not know how to escape that situation. If they had a ladder out of it they'd walk right by that ladder. They are lost.
 
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The same thing, largely, that is to blame for the problems of Mexicans and poor whites.


Generation to generation of said group being raised with lower class values that are never diagnosed through the generations, compounding the problem.


Not just this but I'd also strongly argue that America and every other large country in the world will now forever have an addict prone "mass underclass" part of its population that largely cannot be saved.

Drug use is so easily available and purchasable, even by the poor, that anyone who wants to can completely and cheaply leave to a temporary drug induced universe to escape their poverty and or hell that neither they or anyone in their lives knows or ever has had the insight to escape.


It's hard to argue with a person who does drugs who knows that the best they will ever do in life is rent a cheap little apartment and just scrape by. Those people aren't ever going to come around because they have no logical reason to. They do not know how to escape that situation. If they had a ladder out of it they'd walk right by that ladder. They are lost.

There are a few who will climb the ladder. I've known some. The problem is that there are more being born into poverty than ever climb out, so the population keeps growing.

It's really just a matter of believing in yourself. If you truly believe that there is no future, no hope, then you aren't going to try to climb any ladders - for what? Just to fall off of the top? How you motivate people to believe in themselves I really don't know.
 
There are a few who will climb the ladder. I've known some. The problem is that there are more being born into poverty than ever climb out, so the population keeps growing.

It's really just a matter of believing in yourself. If you truly believe that there is no future, no hope, then you aren't going to try to climb any ladders - for what? Just to fall off of the top? How you motivate people to believe in themselves I really don't know.



I've dealt with a lot of poor people of all walks. I'd have to say that there's no greater motivation for wealth and class for a person than to see the bottom and how degenerate it truly is.


That's why I'm pro abortion staunchly as well as birth control. People have no idea just how many people in America it was an injustice for them even to be born. They are born into literally and figuratively nothing. They have not a cent to their name from day one. They're born on borrowed money, will be fed on borrowed (or outright taken) money and will even die and be disposed of with borrowed money. They go their whole lives never above water really, and the truth is they never stood a chance, contrary to what some deluded rosy type will tell you.
 
Quite humorous. A nation keeps an entire population in slavery for close to 300 years, frees them without any real measure of support, and then asks who is to blame for their plight only a generation after many were even allowed to vote in a great portion of the nation.

There are many avenues that allow for forward mobility that ANYBODY can access. Nobody is being kept down and ANYBODY can change their lot in life. All it takes is motivation, intelligence and education.
 
There are many avenues that allow for forward mobility that ANYBODY can access. Nobody is being kept down and ANYBODY can change their lot in life. All it takes is motivation, intelligence and education.

I would add one more thing, the ability to believe it is possible. Often we are blind to possibilities for many, many reasons. That lack of knowledge becomes a prison for too many.
 
The road upward for blacks has been a virtual freeway for the past fifty years. Why did so few take it?

It's too late now, Obama is closing the freeway down in favor of the Hispanic races.
 
I would add one more thing, the ability to believe it is possible. Often we are blind to possibilities for many, many reasons. That lack of knowledge becomes a prison for too many.

That is what I meant as a part of motivation... but you worded it better, to be honest.

I feel that there are far too many intelligent black people to conclude that it can't be done. As you said though, the ability to believe is paramount. I had very intelligent young black men who were in gangs or in that culture that just never looked past the present.
 
That is what I meant as a part of motivation... but you worded it better, to be honest.

I feel that there are far too many intelligent black people to conclude that it can't be done. As you said though, the ability to believe is paramount. I had very intelligent young black men who were in gangs or in that culture that just never looked past the present.

Met a few myself. Grew up that way as well. I know the blind spots well. I got lucky and found someone who could see what I could not.
 
The road upward for blacks has been a virtual freeway for the past fifty years. Why did so few take it?

It's too late now, Obama is closing the freeway down in favor of the Hispanic races.

The USA is still a land of opportunity regardless of ethnicity.
 
I'd like to know what problems the pollster believes African Americans are having before answering the question. Speaking strictly for me and mine, those in my household are doing quite fine, thank you.
 
The American black cultural situation is too far in extremis to talk about mere "Problems" in black society.

The more precise descriptor would refer to the "Failure" of the black culture in an America where there previously was opportunity for everyone, including blacks.

At this point, while black rage continues to receive most of the media attention and blacks remain a solid staple of Democrat victimhood and dependency, Mexicans have replaced blacks as the primary focus of vote solicitation for Democrats.

This Democrat shift in focus to Mexicans does not bode well for any hope of a black cultural improvement in the future. Neither does it bode well for the eventual future of the Mexicans as they will have to be forever maintained in victim and dependency status in order to keep them as solid Democrat voters.

What "previous" opportunities are you referring to when speaking of Blacks in American?

Are you speaking of the butler? The maid? The shoeshine boy? The chauffer? The landscaper? The gardener? The custodian? The swing band musician? The Pullman Porter? Or are you referring to the doctor, the surgeon, the lawyer, the bank executive, the small business owner, the hedge fund manager, the CEO, the chemist, the physicist, the engineer or any other professional "opportuniy" Whites dominated prior to and since the Civil Rights era because they had access to the highest quality education and job placement that subsequently followed. Surely you referring to those opportunities - all things being equal, right?

Whenever I see post/polls like this one laced with such vagueness I immediately think "entrapment". The intent isn't to answer a specific question and then as "why". Rather, the purpose is to point fingers, get everyone arguing for or against their own point of view instead of asking the one true question that matters here: "Why ask such non-sense in the first place?"

Yes, there are problems within African American communities all across the country just as there are problems within Whites communities, Latinos communities and every other community of every other racial group across the country. Yet, instead of the pollster first identifying a specific problem and then asking how can they or WE solve it, he asks a question purposely designed to point fingers and further segregate.

If you really believe that "this land is my land, this land your land...this land belongs to you and me" you'd never entertain polls of such vagueness designed to fracture rather than elicit solutions to a specific problem. So, to the pollster: Identify a specific "problem" then I'll consider providing what I believe is a viable solution. Until then, I call "troll".
 
Blacks themselves. They encourage scapegoatism and "blaming whitey". If you're a success doing something besides ballin, slingin, or rappin, you're a sellout. If you speak coherently, you're "talking white". If you're black and support responsibility amongst your own, you're an Uncle Tom.

Black culture does great at keeping their own people down and explaining who is to blame for it.
Excellent point. My vote was for the DNC, but they're merely the shepherds.
 
Blacks themselves. They encourage scapegoatism and "blaming whitey". If you're a success doing something besides ballin, slingin, or rappin, you're a sellout. If you speak coherently, you're "talking white". If you're black and support responsibility amongst your own, you're an Uncle Tom.

Black culture does great at keeping their own people down and explaining who is to blame for it.
It's easier to listen to guys like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton tell you that someone else is to blame for your lot in life than it is to hear intelligent, responsible, successful black Americans talk about the hard work and sacrifice involved in their achievements. That isn't just black Americans; everyone today perpetuates the entitlement mentality.
The progressive Democrat Party has successfully transformed 95% of Black America into a culture of perpetual victim-hood_

Progressives consider non-whites to be more useful and loyal when the women are barefoot and pregnant, the men are unemployed and angry, and both are dependent on Big Government_
 
The progressive Democrat Party has successfully transformed 95% of Black America into a culture of perpetual victim-hood_

Progressives consider non-whites to be more useful and loyal when the women are barefoot and pregnant, the men are unemployed and angry, and both are dependent on Big Government_
I doubt any true progressive would believe that bull.
 
I doubt any true progressive would believe that bull.
Regardless of whether they believe it or not; it does appear to be their political strategy in securing minority support_
 
What "previous" opportunities are you referring to when speaking of Blacks in American?

Are you speaking of the butler? The maid? The shoeshine boy? The chauffer? The landscaper? The gardener?

Wait a cotton pickin minute, here.I happen to be as lily white as the newfallen snow!

At least on my chest, back and legs.
 
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