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Thread: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    This thread has been brought to you by the same people who tell rape victims to get over it.
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This thread has been brought to you by the same people who tell rape victims to get over it.
    Modern African Americans are not "victims." Frankly, the fact that so many of them insist on thinking of themselves as such is a major part of the problem where their advancement in American society is concerned.

    I hate to break it to everyone, but the simple fact of the matter is that "success" isn't the kind of thing that is arbitrarily bestowed upon a person, or a people, by someone else. It is something that they have to reach out, take for themselves, and throttle into submission.

    The "bleeding hearts" can bitch all they want. Nothing will change where the black community's situation is concerned until they make the decision to make it happen for themselves.

    We need to see a lot more Harlem Renaissance, and a lot less pining over imaginary "Obama phones," and gangster rap concerning "baby mommas," violent crime, and substance abuse.
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I hate to break it to everyone, but the simple fact of the matter is that "success" isn't the kind of thing that is arbitrarily bestowed upon a person, or a people, by someone else. It is something that they have to reach out, take for themselves, and throttle into submission.
    Unless you're white and have recently graduated from school, in which case the lack of success is caused by the economy and modern culture

    We need to see a lot more Harlem Renaissance, and a lot less gangster rap concerning "baby mommas," violent crime, and substance abuse.
    That's pretty ironic given that the Harlem Renaissance emphasized the slavery experience and racial identity
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Unless you're white and have recently graduated from school, in which case the lack of success is caused by the economy and modern culture
    Which I'm fighting tooth and nail against. What's your point?

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Modern African Americans are not "victims."
    This depends on whether you consider the products from a rape to be victims. I certainly do.

    I hate to break it to everyone, but the simple fact of the matter is that "success" isn't the kind of thing that is arbitrarily bestowed upon a person, or a people, by someone else.
    Easy to say when you don't belong to a group of people who were economically, socially and culturally raped for 300 years.

    The "bleeding hearts" can bitch all they want. Nothing will change where the black community's situation is concerned until they make the decision to make it happen for themselves.


    We need to see a lot more Harlem Renaissance, and a lot less gangster rap concerning "baby mommas," violent crime, and substance abuse.
    Romanticism from the 1920s? That's a new one. Tell us, how was the rest of 1920s black America doing at that time?
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Which I'm fighting tooth and nail against. What's your point?
    My point is that one who blames people for their own lack of success should apply that same standard to their own lack of success.
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This depends on whether you consider the products from a rape to be victims. I certainly do.
    African Americans are not rape victims.

    Easy to say when you don't belong to a group of people who were economically, socially and culturally raped for 300 years.
    Guess what, I'm predominantly Irish.

    Cute cartoon. It doesn't mean anything.

    Romanticism from the 1920s? That's a new one. Tell us, how was the rest of 1920s black America doing at that time?
    Gaining ground faster than they are today.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Romanticism from the 1920s? That's a new one. Tell us, how was the rest of 1920s black America doing at that time?
    Well, I guess saying that blacks were better off in the 1950's didn't work, so why not go further back. Soon, we'll be in Claven Bundy territory
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Enough. Fortunately, the ones I know are proud, strong, confident black individuals. I don't associate with hoods.
    And what exactly does "enough" mean and why doesn't knowing these people who you wouldn't not describe in this way keep you from making such a claim
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterLiberty View Post
    I would elaborate on that by asserting it is Black Leadership and Black Cultural Icons that perpetuate these problems within the community. Leadership is responsible for scapegoatism (Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton are big in that area) and of course there are numerous examples of bad examples set by Black Icons. If every small black child grew up admiring Herman Cain and yes even President Obama (As much as I disagree with his politics I think he is a good man and a good role model for young african americans.) I think Black America would be far better served.
    How about now you tell me what it's like to be a woman and what "excuses" I've chosen to provide myself.
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