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Thread: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAkston View Post
    And this is where you would be wrong (in bold). The drug laws (I do not agree with them at all) target drug users. If minorities are the highest percentage of drug users, they will be the ones convicted more often. There's nothing racist about the drug laws, sorry.
    Wrong. Like I said, some of the writing of the time is much hand-ringing over drugs minorities use, and these laws target them specifically. Black people are not the highest percentage of drug users -- not even close -- and they are sent to prison at a rate much higher than the percentage of drug users they comprise, and also much higher than the percentage of arrested drug users they comprise.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Oh oh oh, does this mean I finally get to play the "blame the Jews" card? It's been sitting in my deck for months.
    By all means, play the hand you've been dealt. Don't let anyone stop you


    I don't blame any issues I have as a white person on blacks.
    Then who do you blame for the issues you have?
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    There is no separate war on drugs that started with Nixon. Nixon was just the first person to call it a war on drugs.
    Well, when you look at US prison populations, it sure as hell looks pretty separate. Because... it is.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    I don't think the Black leadership has been vocal enough in insisting that Education become an important goal among the black community. Jackson and Sharpton are absurd failures of leadership. If the rap and music icons could promote positive values, and that does not mean I am in acceptance of standard mores and propagandas, whether they encouoraged revolution or insurrection or protesting the 1%/99% division of wealth. I think the black problems are about to become generic National problems very soon because of the lack of any meaningful job programs or entrepreneural programs at Federal and State levels.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    but I cannot find blame in the law itself, .
    I don't think blame was laid on "the law", she was clearly focused on enforcement.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    He should be a role model for anyone in this country, regardless of their color or his for that matter. Anyone in this country can rise to great things. You have to want it, and you have to work for it. Obama is actually also proof that you can go from food stamps to the White House in a few decades.
    I wasn't arguing otherwise. It's just that his being president speaks uniquely to black people who believe that rising to the presidency is an impossible notion.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans??

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I chose black leadership - I mean Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are pretty much a given as failed leadership but it is so much more than that. I am talking about parents, teachers, businessmen, ect. they are all failing the younger generation.


    Long story short, I attended a ultra poor predominantly black school for a year when I was 12. I observed quite a few differences from what I was used to in both school facility and students. The first thing that I noticed was they were lagging very far behind in the curriculum being taught. They were teaching things I had covered 2-3+ years prior, I felt like I was in 3rd grade again and not the 6th. I was amazed at just how far behind they were. This gave me ample time to be more observant of the environment and some of the things I noticed were the attitudes of both teachers and students were remarkably different. The teachers (which were also black) seemed to talk down to the students and acted as if they were attempting to train a rock. They showed very little inspiration or expectation out of their students. It was if they felt they were wasting their time and they were just going threw the motions.

    The students themselves had a different outlook. Many (not all) seemed to view education as a waste of time that it would not benefit them in life. They seemed to believe that their lives were pre determined and that they would live the same lives that their parents lived which was a very poor life with seemingly no opportunities to better it. It appeared to them that school was simply something they were forced to do and they did not strive to excel at it. They did as little as they could get by with.

    A few of the boys (dare I say maybe even a majority) in my class were eager to let everyone know that they were already gang members who sold drugs for a living and an education was not relevant to their lives. Their aspirations in life never went beyond that.

    So I blame the black leaders within the community (or lack of) for failing to set and show examples of success and the importance of education and striving to become something better. Until hope is shown to them I feel each generation will largely be lost.
    Wow, that bolded part is really depressing. If those boys grew up to be gang members who sold drugs, they are responsible for their own failures.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    I don't think blame was laid on "the law", she was clearly focused on enforcement.
    Its possible I misunderstood. I seemed to have the same interpretation of the statement as Red did.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I wasn't arguing otherwise. It's just that his being president speaks uniquely to black people who believe that rising to the presidency is an impossible notion.
    He's living proof that any black person can rise to the pinnacle, if that black person wants it enough - and works for it. He's one of many.

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    Re: Who do you blame for the problems of African Americans?? [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    And the information is heterogeneous, lacking in variability such as type of drug?
    Ooops....

    If anyone says "crack is penalized harder than pot because crack is a black drug" is going to be incessantly mocked.
    I have no idea why you rely on straw argument.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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