View Poll Results: Open Primaries

Voters
50. You may not vote on this poll
  • Good Idea

    21 42.00%
  • Bad Idea

    20 40.00%
  • Neither of the Above/Other

    8 16.00%
  • The white crayon serves no purpose.

    1 2.00%
Page 5 of 11 FirstFirst ... 34567 ... LastLast
Results 41 to 50 of 108

Thread: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

  1. #41
    Dungeon Master
    anti socialist

    X Factor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Texas Proud
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:33 PM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    45,091

    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Those profit opportunities in Texas come at the expense of education and public health, and come with a shoddy justice system. Let's not pretend Texas is Shangri-La.
    As someone who knows a lot of dedicated people in the Texas justice system go...ok, I can't legally finish that...use your imagination.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.
    Mahatma Gandhi


  2. #42
    Global Moderator
    Moderator
    Helix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:44 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    37,668

    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    But why should a team be obligated to give you a vote if you don't want to be part of the team?
    because i'm a paying member of the country, and i should have a vote concerning who gets to **** it up next; independent of labels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    For the record, I'm registered Green. I am not a part of either major party; the only reason I registered Green was for a mayoral primary in my city.
    i'm beginning to think more and more that there shouldn't even be political parties; just candidates.

    **** teams.

  3. #43
    Sage


    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    IL
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:44 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    37,316

    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    As someone who knows a lot of dedicated people in the Texas justice system go...
    ok, I can't legally finish that...use your imagination.

    Let's try your OP.
    It's right out of the 10th amendment, the 2nd most holy amendment to you people.
    This is why you support it, as a purist.
    Notice some of the whiny cons on here who don't want the 10th applied when they lose .
    Physics is Phun; Chemists Have Solutions

  4. #44
    Dungeon Master
    anti socialist

    X Factor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Texas Proud
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:33 PM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    45,091

    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Let's try your OP.
    It's right out of the 10th amendment, the 2nd most holy amendment to you people.
    This is why you support it, as a purist.
    Notice some of the whiny cons on here who don't want the 10th applied when they lose .
    All I asked is if they're a good idea or bad. Folks (of whatever lean) are not being whiny for giving me an opinion that I asked for.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.
    Mahatma Gandhi


  5. #45
    The Dude
    Kobie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Western NY
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:12 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    43,164

    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    because i'm a paying member of the country, and i should have a vote concerning who gets to **** it up next; independent of labels.
    I understand that, and believe me, I'm not particularly married to this issue.

    Court decisions have been largely split on the issue. The SCOTUS in 1999 ruled in favor of the California Democratic Party (which sued to have a referendum that approved open primaries to be overturned) on the basis of free association. But, there have been other rulings in favor of open primaries.

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i'm beginning to think more and more that there shouldn't even be political parties; just candidates.

    **** teams.
    IMHO, that would exacerbate some of our problems without other laws put into place. As it stands now, a party candidate can receive funding from a larger umbrella organization. If it were every man for himself, the rich guy could simply outspend the poor guy into oblivion.

    Why shouldn't likeminded people be allowed to pool resources to elect a candidate they feel represents their values? That's basically what a political party is.

    And yes, I feel corporations and unions should be allowed to do that as well. Disclosure, however, is necessary. Before I vote for a candidate, I want to know who owns him or her.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

  6. #46
    The Dude
    Kobie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Western NY
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:12 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    43,164

    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    As someone who knows a lot of dedicated people in the Texas justice system go...ok, I can't legally finish that...use your imagination.
    YA GOTTA ADMIT, Texas is awful quick with Ol' Sparky. And proven wrong at a pretty alarming rate.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

  7. #47
    Sage


    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    IL
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:44 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    37,316

    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    because i'm a paying member of the country,
    and i should have a vote concerning who gets to **** it up next; independent of labels.
    This USSC has proven to be one that will uphold practically any state's rights issue with voting.
    Going back to closed primaries is a no-brainer for the GOP, and quite constitutional.

    I'm still surprised that the GOP in Pennsylvania didn't go through with its electoral college scheme to divide the votes by congressional district.
    There will be important VRA decisions by the Supremes that will affect this election.

    i'm beginning to think more and more that there shouldn't even be political parties; just candidates. **** teams.
    I want my team to keep the Senate in November, after what I've seen the other team do since Cantor convened his team to obstruct the President.
    I know the philosophy of debate doesn't call for this.
    I expect Cantor to work with Dems somewhat now to get back at the TEAs .
    Physics is Phun; Chemists Have Solutions

  8. #48
    Sage


    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    IL
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:44 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    37,316

    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    All I asked is if they're a good idea or bad. Folks (of whatever lean) are not being whiny for giving me an opinion that I asked for.
    If Cantor had won, we wouldn't be talking about this.
    We'll be going through the same thing in two weeks if McDaniel wins in Mississippi, knocking off the six-term Cochran.
    Was Mississippi open or closed--can't remember?

    I believe a lot more bums will be thrown out then the "experts" think, both parties--both chambers .
    Last edited by NIMBY; 06-11-14 at 04:29 AM.
    Physics is Phun; Chemists Have Solutions

  9. #49
    Dungeon Master
    anti socialist

    X Factor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Texas Proud
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:33 PM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    45,091

    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    If Cantor had won, we wouldn't be talking about this.
    We'll be going through the same thing in two weeks if McDaniel wins in Mississippi, knocking off the six-term Cochran.

    Term limits only seem to apply to my team, not all of the GOP five/six/seven termers, like McConnell, McCain, and Hatch respectively.
    I believe a lot more bums will be thrown out then the "experts" think, both parties--both chambers .
    I'm sure you're right and there are no long time Democrat senators and term limit laws specifically exempt Republicans.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.
    Mahatma Gandhi


  10. #50
    Sage


    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    IL
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:44 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    37,316

    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    My edit actually removed that 3rd line before you posted if you check.
    I knew when I looked at the post it would be the line you would chomp on.
    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I'm sure you're right and there are no long time Democrat senators and term limit laws specifically exempt Republicans.
    Was the Mississippi primary open to Democrats?
    If so they can still have an affect one way or another.
    We'll see in two weeks.

    Besides Harry Reid, who else would you trade for on my team to get them out of the Senate?
    Notice I own up to teams .
    Physics is Phun; Chemists Have Solutions

Page 5 of 11 FirstFirst ... 34567 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •