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Thread: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

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    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    A statewide primary would be much more difficult in which to pull it off; however, it happened in 2008 in New Hampshire. Romney won among registered Republicans; however, McCain pulled a lot of non-Republican votes and won the Republican nomination. Why should non-Republicans (or Democrats) get to choose the Republican (or Democratic) nominee?
    Maybe because they feel that one of the people (from whichever primary) is the best candidate. As I mentioned in that other thread, I often vote in the Dem primary - not to try to nominate someone more likely to lose in the general election (more often than not there's not even a Republican candidate running) but because I know the people involved and I know who would make the better judge (or whatever elected office).
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    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    To do that, I think there would have to be a lot more coordination than is, frankly, possible. .

    I think you are overestimating how much effort it would take considering the fact that the more local an election the less registered voters in that district will vote and primaries do not draw as many registered voters as the main election. People who tend to vote in all these elections regardless of how local or how national that election is tend to be political diehards.It wouldn't take much effort for them to vote a particular war to rig the main elections in their favor.

    In fact, Rush Limbaugh tried to get people voting for Hillary in 2008 (calling it Operation Chaos) and we see how well that worked (and Rush has a much bigger platform than most)
    1. The vast majority of registered voters do not listen to Rush Limbaugh or even have any idea who he is.
    2. Just because you listen to a pundit's show doesn't mean you actually agree with that pundit's political views.
    3. Only 20 states have open or semi-closed presidential primaries.
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    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I actually think they are bad. A political party has the right to prevent non-members from choosing its candidates for office. It opens them to sabotage from opposition forces.
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    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    This just came up in another thread. I live in an open primary state (Texas). That simply means you don't register as a party member and you can vote in either the Dem or the Repub primary election (not both, of course). I think it's a good thing (although it is a little scary how many people don't understand it here and still think they're registered with a party just by voting in that primary) but I guess the argument against it is that people from the "other side" could all vote in your primary to try to get a candidate nominated that has less of a chance against the guy from that "other side".

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    I've always wondered why a group of people would start a club and then allow people who are not part of the club have a say in their decisions. Seems like a pretty dumb thing to do.
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    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
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    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    An open primary might or seems to work in states like Georgia or Texas but what about states like California that has a large population of stupid people ?

    An uneducated elector who are clueless on the issues and even the candidates ?

    In Los Angeles County 50% of those of the work force are legally illiterate or functionally illiterate. But they are voting.

    These are the same people who voted for having open primaries in California.

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    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    An open primary might or seems to work in states like Georgia or Texas but what about states like California that has a large population of stupid people ?

    An uneducated elector who are clueless on the issues and even the candidates ?

    In Los Angeles County 50% of those of the work force are legally illiterate or functionally illiterate. But they are voting.

    These are the same people who voted for having open primaries in California.
    No stupid people in Georgia or Texas! No, sir!
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    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    No stupid people in Georgia or Texas! No, sir!
    I suppose stupid people in Georgia and Texas don't have drivers licenses.

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    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    If a party wants to have a primary race to select their candidate they can organize and pay for it and run it. The state should have no involvement whatsoever.
    Wow! This something that I have never considered. Presidential candidates are decided at the Party Convention. It would be pretty sweet if our local parties could pick candidates to represent the party. This is a brilliant idea. I really like it.

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    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    To do that, I think there would have to be a lot more coordination than is, frankly, possible. In fact, Rush Limbaugh tried to get people voting for Hillary in 2008 (calling it Operation Chaos) and we see how well that worked (and Rush has a much bigger platform than most).
    I was a participant in Operation Chaos. I brought a cool sign to a Hillary Clinton rally that said, "Rush Republicans for Hillary." The word Republican had a line drawn through it and the word Democrat was written above it. I waited to see Bill Clinton for over 7 hours and they ended up taking my sign away for security reasons.

    I did get to see Bill Clinton. That was pretty cool.

    I voted for Hillary in 2008 and I hope to vote for her again in 2016.

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