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Thread: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

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    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    As we discuss open versus closed for the Congress, it remains to be seen how much more RNC Chief Priebus can change with the states to control the POTUS nomination process.

    This doesn't begin to address the allocation of delegates--winner-take-all versus proportional; and whether the process should be primary versus caucus.

    Have fun with that 10th amendment .
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    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    This just came up in another thread. I live in an open primary state (Texas). That simply means you don't register as a party member and you can vote in either the Dem or the Repub primary election (not both, of course). I think it's a good thing (although it is a little scary how many people don't understand it here and still think they're registered with a party just by voting in that primary) but I guess the argument against it is that people from the "other side" could all vote in your primary to try to get a candidate nominated that has less of a chance against the guy from that "other side".

    What do you think?

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    Something to think about. Political parties are not in the Constitution, so good or bad is irrelevant, the question is are they constitutional.

    It appears yes.

    That being said I only like them if I can get a advantage out of it

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    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    1.)Did I miss a question? Hopefully I'll answer it here.
    2.)Not all organizations that endorse candidates need to be open to the public. A candidate may be endorsed by any number of organizations. A candidate could be endorsed by the very exclusive Frog Holler Gentlemen's Society.
    3.)Who are you to dictate to a private organization whom they must permit to be members. I belong to an organization that only accepts members who have been recommended by an existing member.
    4.) Private organizations can have their own rules of membership.
    5.) Political parties are private organizations
    6.), not a part of the government.
    7.)I think the exclusive "No Football Players Party" has already done so, and it is perfectly within their rights to do so.
    8.) And they can endorse any candidate they choose.
    1.) you ignored like 5 of them LOL
    2.) didnt say they did, could you post somethign other than strawmen? none of this has any impact to what i said at all
    3.) see #2 where did i say i get to dictate Lol oh thats right i didnt
    4.) 100% correct and the republican party factually can not, thank you for proving my point
    5.) you already [roved for me that they are factually not
    6.) didnt say they were another failed starwman
    7.) no it factually is not within thier rights lol
    8.) yes people can endorse who they want. meaningless to the discussion.

    do you have anythign that is accurate and actually matters?

    can the republicans not allow christians, males, blacks or women's to be members? answer? no
    can a private org? yes

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    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) you ignored like 5 of them LOL
    2.) didnt say they did, could you post somethign other than strawmen? none of this has any impact to what i said at all
    3.) see #2 where did i say i get to dictate Lol oh thats right i didnt
    4.) 100% correct and the republican party factually can not, thank you for proving my point
    5.) you already [roved for me that they are factually not
    6.) didnt say they were another failed starwman
    7.) no it factually is not within thier rights lol
    8.) yes people can endorse who they want. meaningless to the discussion.

    do you have anythign that is accurate and actually matters?

    can the republicans not allow christians, males, blacks or women's to be members? answer? no
    can a private org? yes

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    As I said in response to the OP, I think a political party should have the right to select whom they endorse by whatever mechanism they choose. I don't consider it a legitimate government function to dictate to political parties (a non-governmental organization) how they go about choosing a candidate to endorse. Please note, that I am NOT saying you said anything, but am simply giving my opinion in response to the OP.

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    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Hillary won Ohio and Texas soon after and extended the process an extra 2 months, divided Democrats on what were basically identical candidates and destroyed any idea of a Hillary vice-presidency. Yes, we definitely know how well that worked.
    Didn't she win Kentucky too as a result?

    It also forced Obama's campaign to spend more in the primary they could have saved for the general.

    I need to check the timeline history but it's possible Operation Chaos helped Obama beat McCain in 2008. If I'm not mistaken Hillary Clinton's campaign unleased much of their "kitchen sink" strategy after operation chaos in a last ditch effort to win the democrat primary. This got all of Obama's skeletons out of the closet in the primary with plenty of time to execute an effective damage control response, allow the American people to get over it and by November it was all ancient news that nobody cared about anymore robbing the republicans of any "October Surprise" opportunity. Its crazy but possible Obama owes his election in 2008 in part to Rush Limbaugh and passionate conservative talk radio fans.
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    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    1.)As I said in response to the OP, I think a political party should have the right to select whom they endorse by whatever mechanism they choose.
    2.)I don't consider it a legitimate government function to dictate to political parties (a non-governmental organization) how they go about choosing a candidate to endorse.
    3.)Please note, that I am NOT saying you said anything, but am simply giving my opinion in response to the OP.
    1.) still dont disagree nor have i said otherwise
    2.) also didnt say this either
    3.)then i guess you shouldnt have quoted me and it still remains the parties are public not private
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    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    As we discuss open versus closed for the Congress, it remains to be seen how much more RNC Chief Priebus can change with the states to control the POTUS nomination process.

    This doesn't begin to address the allocation of delegates--winner-take-all versus proportional; and whether the process should be primary versus caucus.

    Have fun with that 10th amendment .
    On the proportional awarding of delegates or electoral votes by congressional district or winner take all is that it dilutes the clout of the bigger states. Hence this is why only Maine (4) and Nebraska (5) do it. States love it when presidential candidate visit and campaign in their state. Whether in the primary or general election. Take the swing state of Ohio, 18 EV. If Ohio distributed their delegates in the primary or their electoral votes via congressional district, even if Ohio was a swing state would that mean more or less visits by the candidates? Probably less as a candidate would have to visit all 16 congressional districts to have the same impact one visit would have if it was winner take all. The political power of the state of Ohio as a whole would be diluted if all delegates and electoral votes were awarded by CD. Because of this I do not think you will see any more states going the way of Maine and Nebraska.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) still dont disagree nor have i said otherwise
    2.) also didnt say this either
    3.)then i guess you shouldnt have quoted me and it still remains the parties are public not private
    A political party is a non-governmental organization. Because of this, I can see no reason for the government to dictate how they manage their affairs, including how they select a candidate to endorse.

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    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    A political party is a non-governmental organization.
    2.)Because of this, I can see no reason for the government to dictate how they manage their affairs, including how they select a candidate to endorse.
    1.) never said otherwise, meaningless to the party being public. Keep re-posting this straw man though it will fail every time.
    2.) also meaningless to them being public.
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    Re: Open Primaries Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) never said otherwise,
    Never said you said otherwise.

    meaningless to the party being public. Keep re-posting this straw man though it will fail every time.
    A straw man is a misstatement of another's position. I have made no statement regarding your position, so I haven't posted any straw man

    2.) also meaningless to them being public.
    Them being public (in your opinion) is meaningless to my response to the OP. My response was that I don't think the government should be involved at all in how a political party goes about deciding which candidate it will endorse.

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